Hi there,

  I am a little confused with the Velocity pane in the PRV.  I have a drum track - Kick Snare and Hat.  There is considerable overlap of notes.  I want to lift out the snare a little - in one go, and I like to freehand the velocity a little.  I swear I used to select the snare on the left hand side which would in turn select all the snare notes in the PRV.  A this point I could draw i the prv velocity pane, and only the velocities of the selected notes would be affected.

Now when I do this, all notes are effected.  Am I doing something wrong or is a change?

Cheers

Grif

Im on X1 but I like to lasso the ones I want to edit then go to the right side of one of the selected notes and drag it to the length I want which will/should change all the selected notes the same

Now when I do this, all notes are effected.  Am I doing something wrong or is a change?

It does appear this has changed; I checked 8.5, and it did work that way. And I'm not seeing any ways around it right offhand. I thought Show Velocity Only for Selected Notes would do the trick, but with the Controllers Pane open, it only shows velocity while you're actually holding left-click on a note.  And since you cant draw controllers in the notes pane, it doesn't help that Show Only Selected works there.


There have been so many PRV editing changes over the last few versions, I can't keep up, especially given that I don't work in the PRV that extensively.


But it does seem this might be an oversight in the intended functionality, if not an actual bug.

digi2ns


Im on X1 but I like to lasso the ones I want to edit then go to the right side of one of the selected notes and drag it to the length I want which will/should change all the selected notes the same

Thanks digi - I can do that, but I prefer the velocity pane as I can free hand a little variation in there.  Daft thing is I totally remember dong it that way. Thanks though - it is a starting point


Cheers


Grif

If you use the draw tool in the Velocity pane you should be able to draw in velocity. I can.

Using the Smart tool...
- Select notes.
- Hold Alt
- Draw velocities in Controller pane.

Only selected note velocities will be affected.

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Scott

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if you have overlapping notes and want to adjust only selected ones you can do it in the controller pane but once you select the notes you need to hold the alt key while drawing to effect ONLY the selected notes and not any of the other notes that fall in that time range.  when i do drums, i like to click say the hi-hat row, which will select all hi-hat notes, and then alt+draw in the velocity pane. sorry if i explained this all ass-backwards. :/

garrigus


Using the Smart tool...
- Select notes.
- Hold Alt
- Draw velocities in Controller pane.

Only selected note velocities will be affected.

http://garrigus.com/?SonarX2Power

Scott

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Thanks Scott and Swamptooth - it appears the Alt key was the new factor.  John - I was able to edit velocities sin the velocity pane - what I was missing was a way to only edit velocities for selected notes.  Once I conform this I'll mark it solved.


Thanks to all for your responses.


Cheers


Grif

OK I  see. I hope its working for you.

Using the Smart tool... - Select notes. - Hold Alt - Draw velocities in Controller pane.

Hey, Scott, that works but I'll be danged if I can find that documented in the X2 Reference Guide. Do you have a page reference?

Also, on page 692, it says (and shows screenshots of):

To only show velocity for selected note events 

Click the Piano Roll view Notes menu and choose Show Velocity on Selected Notes Only.



[snip]



"Selection sensitive velocity drawing

If any Note events are selected, velocity painting will only affect those selected Note events. If no

Note events are selected, then velocity painting will affect all Note events."

The screenshots show this working in the PRV note pane, but I am not seeing what they show. When I have Show Velocity on Selected Notes Only enabled, I don't see velocity on any notes, selected or otherwise, except when I click and hold  on a single note, or paint with the Ctrl key held down (which is documented on page 452, conveniently right next door to page 692 ), at which point they magically appear as my cursor crosses the start time of a selected note, but then disappear again when I release the mouse button. Do I have a unique graphics problem here, or is that working for you?