• SONAR
  • Numerous problems reported with X2, 2 month later still no real update? (p.10)
2012/11/20 19:54:30
Mosvalve
8.5 pro and X1 pro were solid for me though I have to say I didn't use 8.5 to long because X1 came out. I went full out with X1, bought exspanded and all the prochannels modules etc.. I upgraded to X2 because X1 was great for me but I have a lot of issues with X2 and not sure why.
For the sake of geting X2 to work like X1 I reimaged my pc back to the factory image. After spending hours of backing up data and reinstalling apps and restoring data and Windows update etc. I installed X2 and only X2 and I'm still having the same issues except now V-Vocal doesn't crash X2 every time I use it. So I am disappointed with X2. I will give cake a little longer to work out the issues. If X2 is not going to be stable enough I'll wipe it out and install X1 and not upgrade again. I will be afraid to upgrade. I understand that applications are installed on many make and model PC's with so many difference hardware, software etc. and if X1 is compatible with my PC then I'm sticking with it.
2012/11/20 21:55:17
sharke
Beepster


Oh and I should point out I made my PC a powerhouse to take whatever I can throw at it and be future ready. I don't want to hace to build another one for at least 4-5 years. I could have built it for $800 if I was being frugal and used different brands. I've still got a lot of the lists I made back then.

No reason why a PC shouldn't be good for that long. My current PC is 3 years old and to tell you the truth I bet it would run for another 3 years, the only thing being I would quite prefer a roomier case and some more CPU power since my plugin use seems to be increasing exponentially with time. I also would like to upgrade to Windows 8 and if I'm going to do that, I'd rather it was done with a fresh install. If I'm going to go through the trauma of reinstalling everything on a DAW then I'd rather do that with a new machine. 


I may well check out ADK if it's only going to be 2 or 3 hundred bucks more...given that I've never built a PC before, and I have nobody to help me for free, the chances of something going wrong are pretty high. Besides, I fully plan to write it off as a business expense.....tax porpoises  
2012/11/20 22:10:02
robert_e_bone
For a quite decent machine here are component costs as of this afternoon's US market:

1.  Case
2.  Power Supply
3.  Fans
4.  CPU
5.  Memory
6.  Liquid Cooling (completely optional, but cheap and helpful)
7.  Primary Hard Drives (Several listed, pick one main and at least one secondary)
8.  Motherboard (must be bought in concert with selected CPU)
9.  Operating System - I am pricing Win 7 and Win 8 here because I hate Apple
10.  Optical drive(s) 
11.  External backup drive.

If you shop the above compoments out, you are looking at approximately $1000 for TOP grade components, for a machine with 32 GB of memory and a total of 5 TB of hard drive storage, running one of the fastest CPU's you can buy.

If you want links and specifics, please send me a private message and I will respond with that information.  I built one such monster machine for myself, and it ROCKS!

As far as putting a computer together, it has gotten easier and easier over the years.  It's REALLY simple to do.  If you needed guidance, I would also happyily provide my email address and phone so you could call me with any questions or even to have me walk you through it over the phone.

Bob Bone
2012/11/20 22:11:19
robert_e_bone
Here is a raw list of links and costs for you to look at:

2 TB HD - $99.99 http://microcenter.com/pr...Hard_Drive_STBD2000101 Buy 2 if you can

1 TB HD - $84.99 http://microcenter.com/pr..._Drive_ST3100005N1A1AS This would be your primary drive for OS

CPU - i7 2600k 3.4 GHz $319.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16819115070

Motherboard - LOTS to choose from.  Get one that supports USB 3.0 AND Sata 6.0 gbs, and socket support for 1155.  Here is one for $199.99: http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16813131790

Another Motherboard supports 32 GB memory for $239.99 http://microcenter.com/pr..._ATX_Intel_Motherboard

One more motherboard $379.99: http://microcenter.com/pr..._ATX_Intel_Motherboard

Case - zillions of them to choose from.  Just get one that supports a liquid cooling radiator.  Should cost between $50-$75.

Fans - Get as many as will fit - keeping in mind that if you pick upa liquid cooled one that will come with its own fans. 

Memory - 32 GB can be picked up for around $150-$160, which would be 4 8 GB strips.  I recommend Vengence: http://microcenter.com/pr...ur_8GB_Memory_Modules)

A case - there are lots and lots of them.  I would recommend a tower case, it gives you lots of room inside for things, and make sure you get one that supports having a liquid cooling system.  These run from about $50-$75.  Here is a good one: http://microcenter.com/pr...ower_ATX_Computer_Case

Power Supply - I would get one with at least 600 watt - 750 would be better.  There are numerous ones to choose from.

Liquid cooler radiator system: Corsair makes a good one for about $79.99 - http://microcenter.com/pr...d_AMD_AM2,_AM3_Sockets



2012/11/20 22:15:54
sharke
Thanks, loads of good links there. I might well look into this early next year. I guess I'll save myself some money since I already have a couple of good 7200rpm 2TB hard drives. 
2012/11/20 22:21:47
Bub
robert_e_bone


Here is a raw list of links and costs for you to look at:

2 TB HD - $99.99 http://microcenter.com/pr...Hard_Drive_STBD2000101 Buy 2 if you can

1 TB HD - $84.99 http://microcenter.com/pr..._Drive_ST3100005N1A1AS This would be your primary drive for OS

CPU - i7 2600k 3.4 GHz $319.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16819115070

Motherboard - LOTS to choose from.  Get one that supports USB 3.0 AND Sata 6.0 gbs, and socket support for 1155.  Here is one for $199.99: http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16813131790

Another Motherboard supports 32 GB memory for $239.99 http://microcenter.com/pr..._ATX_Intel_Motherboard

One more motherboard $379.99: http://microcenter.com/pr..._ATX_Intel_Motherboard

Case - zillions of them to choose from.  Just get one that supports a liquid cooling radiator.  Should cost between $50-$75.

Fans - Get as many as will fit - keeping in mind that if you pick upa liquid cooled one that will come with its own fans. 

Memory - 32 GB can be picked up for around $150-$160, which would be 4 8 GB strips.  I recommend Vengence: http://microcenter.com/pr...ur_8GB_Memory_Modules)

A case - there are lots and lots of them.  I would recommend a tower case, it gives you lots of room inside for things, and make sure you get one that supports having a liquid cooling system.  These run from about $50-$75.  Here is a good one: http://microcenter.com/pr...ower_ATX_Computer_Case

Power Supply - I would get one with at least 600 watt - 750 would be better.  There are numerous ones to choose from.

Liquid cooler radiator system: Corsair makes a good one for about $79.99 - http://microcenter.com/pr...d_AMD_AM2,_AM3_Sockets


Not sure what makes you think this is a good system?

Drives that large are usually slower than drives that are much smaller.

Water cooling in most cases is louder than case fans because of how the liquid is cooled.

The RAM you get should be exactly what your mobo manufacturer recommends. Anything else and you are taking a chance on disaster.

What about a video card?

Keyboard?

Mouse?

Shipping? Especially from multiple vendors.
2012/11/20 22:34:33
Beepster
Your math is off, Bob. Even going for discount brands that would cost over $1100 WITHOUT shipping and taxes. Bump up to the better brands and models, include shipping, taxes and a copy of Windows (you forgot the OS) and it'll work out to around the $1500 I quoted. Though some components I used may have dipped in price a bit.

I splurged a bit on my case (Zalman) and bought a nice CPU fan (Noctua) as well as a 700W Coolermaster PSU. I thought those components were worth the extra quid.  
2012/11/21 04:48:15
equality
I agree with Freddie H, first a stable DAW before all those fancy offerings. I also think that someone from CW should reply to the criticism. There were some replies in a couple threads just after X2 was launched...
2012/11/22 12:33:35
Freddie H
equality


I agree with Freddie H, first a stable DAW before all those fancy offerings. I also think that someone from CW should reply to the criticism. There were some replies in a couple threads just after X2 was launched...


Tack min vän. :-)
2012/12/14 14:47:12
Freddie H
Release date: September 21, 2012

Cakewalk® Announces SONAR X2 now shipping

Boston, MA, (September 21, 2012) — Cakewalk, the world's leading developer of powerful and easy to use products for music creation and recording, announces the highly anticipated SONAR X2 is now shipping and available the world over from Roland distribution partners and via the cloud at www.Cakewalk.com.
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Press/release.aspx/Cakewalk-Annouces-SONAR-X2-Now-Shipping
 
 
 
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