Ranting won't speed up testing... the patch will be ready when it is ready... The longer it takes the more stable it will probably be anyway - so wait longer or wait for quick fix patch (intended not to be) that will need yet another patch.

You got a problem with this then revert back to X1.
 
Jeeze don't you realise how long it takes to develop software, patches, test and all. Laughable you expect patches out in two months.... anyway.
And no you can't have any more sweeties, your teeth may drop out.

Don't feel too bad, Karl. I've been pretty much trapped in my crappy basement apartment the entire summer because of my fracked up body and the nature of the building. If I didn't have this music stuff to mess around with I would have gone off the deep end for sure. Changes are coming soon though. Hopefully my patience will pay off and I'll have a semi normal existence again. Cheers.

Anderton

Beepster


You know what would be nice is if maybe Roland/Cakewalk started building (or contracting out) Sonar boxes that are geared completely towards running Sonar effectively. Sadly I'm sure they'd probably charge far too much for them.

I've often mentioned in these forums that I truly believe one of the main reasons why Sonar is so stable of me is because I use a computer integrated specifically for audio from PC Audio Labs. They even test the machine with the software you use before they ship it out. I've also used computers integrated for audio from Rain and ADK and have had equally good results. (The other element that seems to really help stability is choosing carefully among plug-ins). So, in a way, there already ARE computers that are integrated specifically for running heavy-duty audio applications. Windows comes tweaked and all that too.

I hate sounding like a "Sonar X2 works great for me!!" Polyanna, but...Sonar X2 works great for me. I've been pushing it really hard for about a month now on several projects, and yes, there have been occasional issues but I've been able to either solve them or come up with a non-obstrusive workaround. I really think this has more to do with the hardware than anything else.

Any modern DAW, including Sonar, is a precision machine and needs a precision computer to run properly and consistently.

Glad you said it. I've been saying it for a long time too.

I've also been saying that Cakewalk needs to seriously update their system requirements.

Let's be honest about this ... Sonar is not going to run properly, efficiently, or even remotely close to how they claim it will run, or show it running in their promo video's they put out by running it on their listed minimum system specs.

They need to man up and say, if you want it to work the way we claim it works, and the way we show it working in our videos, then here are the specs you need to meet ... and then list what they are running it on.

The people who buy their software typically have a fair amount of cash to spend on this hobby/profession. It doesn't stop at just Sonar, you have cables, instruments, keyboards, audio cards, room treatment, headphones, plug-in's and on and on. Honestly, I've spent thousands and thousands of dollars on all this stuff. If Cakewalk said to me when I first purchased X1, "Bub, you need to spend $3,500 on a DAW and you'll be running as smooth as we claim." You bet your sweet bippie I would have done it. But as it stands, my system is well beyond their listed recommendations ... and you know the rest of the story.

I hope they take their time. Unless there's going to be a separate patch for Windows 8 users, I'm worried what fixes them might break mine. So please, take your time and make it alllllll right!

Hey Beepster, how did the price of your home built system compare to a retail "non specialized" PC? I've been toying with the idea of building a new PC and God knows I need an update, but whenever I've looked into the price of quality components and started adding things up, it's gotten expensive pretty quick. I've blown this years tech budget but no harm in fantasy shopping for next year...

Bristol_Jonesey

Good luck Beep.

Looking back at 8.5.3 now, I'm one of those that now believe the old gui to be absolutely hideous, with myriads of undecipherable, similar looking icons all over the place. By contrast, X1 & X2 simply look professional.

But no doubt this comment will stir up another fest/nest of some sort.

The nice thing about 8.5.3 is, you had the option to add/remove any of the icons in each group.

Can't do that with X1/2.

And if you didn't like how that area of the screen looked, color wise, you could change that too in 8.5.3.

Can't do that with X1/2.

You could float each group of icons to another screen if you had one, or to another spot on your main monitor if it was big enough.

Cant' do that with X1/2.

I'm not trying to stir up a "fest/nest" ... I'm just pointing out that 8.5.3 is not as bad in comparison as you are making it out to be. I liked those customization options in the pre X days and used them extensively.

Hi, sharke. I dropped $1500 after tax and shipping on parts. The equivalent ADK system would have been about $1800 before tax/shipping/customs. It's the customs charges that really would have pushed things over the top though. Being north of the border between shipping and customs I was probably looking at $2300 or more for that $1800 ADK system and knowing Canada Post (and even the big name couriers) it likely would have shown up beat all to hell. 

That said though I spent MANY hours researching and acquiring the parts then had to spend way more time learning how to build the thing... and then actually build it. I also had my friend who is an ultimate pro/genius PC builder guiding me through the process.

If you do decide to go through with the build let me know and maybe I can help you out but seeing as how you are in the US I'd say it's just worth it to snag one from ADK. Remember... they also provide bad ass tech support and if you tell them you are using Sonar they will optimize the system to that and your interface. It really is the best way to go IMO and it's not that much more expensive if you are in the US.

Cheers.

Oh and I should point out I made my PC a powerhouse to take whatever I can throw at it and be future ready. I don't want to hace to build another one for at least 4-5 years. I could have built it for $800 if I was being frugal and used different brands. I've still got a lot of the lists I made back then.

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SuperG


"I'd go tit for tat"





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Or tat from a tit.