Hi Karl,

Thanks for the comment.  As John said,  the Waves V9 plugins are 64-bit. That was my primary incentive to but V9.

To be honest I actually did try to use JBridge with X2 64-bit and the V9 Waves plugins.  I thought I had remembered reading something on the JBridge web site about being able to use JBridge on 64-bit plugins on a 64-bit host.  I  remember at the time thinking - Who would ever want to do that?  

I guess I had remembered it wrong.  All I could find on the JBridge web site was that you can use JBridge to run 64-bit plugins on a 32-bit host.  The ability to use X-Ray isn't the most important issue around.  I'll find a way to work with it.  Sonar has a lot of positives to outweigh any negatives that I have run into.

Don

John


Why would he need Jbridge? Wave 9 are 64 bit now.

I suggested it because the OP said it cured his inability to use X-ray. If it's important to him there's no reason it can't be used even though they are 64 bit.

don4777


Hi Karl,

Thanks for the comment.  As John said,  the Waves V9 plugins are 64-bit. That was my primary incentive to but V9.

To be honest I actually did try to use JBridge with X2 64-bit and the V9 Waves plugins.  I thought I had remembered reading something on the JBridge web site about being able to use JBridge on 64-bit plugins on a 64-bit host.  I  remember at the time thinking - Who would ever want to do that?  

I guess I had remembered it wrong.  All I could find on the JBridge web site was that you can use JBridge to run 64-bit plugins on a 32-bit host.  The ability to use X-Ray isn't the most important issue around.  I'll find a way to work with it.  Sonar has a lot of positives to outweigh any negatives that I have run into.

Don

You can definitely run a 64-bit plug through Jbridge in a 64 bit environment, hence the suggestion, or at least I can here. I was running a couple by mistake for a while.  Whether it'll allow you to use X-ray or not is an entirely different matter though.

everything cool here and x ray working , edit the xray exclude file and voila ....

don4777


Hi Danny, Thanks for the comments. 

The comments weren't meant to be a threat that I am leaving for greener pastures. I really like Sonar and plan on sticking with it. Just a couple of little things had me wondering why it seemed that Sonar ( as good and as popular as it is) seems to be left out of the main stream with plugin developers to some extent. I'm sure the Waves GUI could have been fixed by Waves or Cakewalk. Since it works for other DAWs it would seem that the fix would probably need to come from Cakewalk. 

As far as the Eventide thing goes I'm sure that Eventide will figure it out. It was just one more case of something working with most (or all) of the other DAW's and for some strange reason Sonar was unique. 

I work by day as a engineer working with both hardware and software so I understand and sympathize with the people trying to make all of this work together. I admit I have not looked at the VST spec. I would have thought (make that hoped) that it would have been specific enough after multiple revisions such that plugins and DAW's working to that spec would be compatible. 

I agree with you that the Waves stuff is trivial and worth putting up with. I may have to make more/better use of screen sets. It's just that that cute little lever on the VS-700C is staring at me and begging to be used. The only thing I have found for it to do is X-Ray control (its default function). 

I guess as you pointed out I was venting a little - but I certainly am not saying that Sonar is horrible and threatening to leave if this isn't fixed immediately. Nor am I a fanboi. I recognize that all DAW's have problems and I believe Sonar is definitely worth sticking with. 

I sympathize with your UAD-2 problems. That would really stink. Hopefully it is resolved before long. Luckily there getting to be more and more decent plugins that are starting to give UAD-2 a run for their money in audio quality. Are you finding there are some UAD-2 plugins that are worth you booting up an alternative DAW to use? Or do you simply use an alternative plugin to the UAD-2 plugs? 

Don


(edited to fix Firefox formatting problem.)

Totally understand and agree with you, Don. Nah, I knew you weren't bagging on Sonar and hey, it's quite alright to vent. I wasn't trying to give you a hard time, honest. :)
 
On the UAD stuff, as long as I don't use their 6.4 update, all is well. I don't have 64 bit plugs but thankfully my systems are powerful enough to where I don't need Sonar 64 anyway. I mean it would be nice to have the UAD 64's....but there are a few other reasons Sonar 64 just doesn't work in my realm.
 
I'm currently talking to a UAD tech who has been awesome in trying to help me remedy the problem. Hopefully we can figure something out. As of now, it looks as though they did something to the code of the 32 bit plugs in their new version. I'm going to try a few experiments to see how I fair with the newer software. There's nothing I would have to abandon Sonar for as the 64 bit UAD plugs do work. They give me some sort of CLSID message, but they work...so if I had to use them, I'd be ok. But the 32 bit plugs seem crippled especially when used in older projects. Anyway...that doesn't help your issue any...but thank you for asking.
 
Let's hope all of our issues can one day be resolved. :)
 
-Danny