• SONAR
  • HELP: Audio File Recovery
2007/09/09 10:12:37
mgarrett010461
Did a live recording yesterday, outdoors, laptop, sound guy pulled the plug as I was about to hit the save button.
Laptop died, wiyhout hibernating or anything (battery was dead, my own fault....)

About 2 hours of audio....

Project was created, the session was not saved. The folder is there, the two audio tracks are there but small , they are about 175K an cannot be opened. They should be anout 2g each.

Is there any way to recover the audio files??

FRUSTRATED..... Did I not select the auto save every 5 minute option or what.... is that even possible with streaming audio?? Cakwalk developer, if not figure it out and write a patent.... I'll sign all the required documents, split the profit
50/50.....

mcg
2007/09/09 10:20:27
daveny5
Did you have autosave on? If you didn't select that option, that's your fault not Cakewalk's fault. You could have set it up to save every 10 minutes or so. Also, you could have hit CTRL-S anytime during the recording (preferably between songs) which would have saved up to that point.

Search your audio folder to see if there are any autosave files or any Cxxxxxxxxx.wav files there from the time of the recording.

Otherwise...... LESSON LEARNED!
2007/09/09 10:26:25
hadje
this may not help but i deleted some files in error a few weeks ago, and i was able to recover them using a free utility that i found through google.
i am at a different computer right now, but i think i did a search for something like "lost file recovery free software" or something along those lines. the first free utility that i tried worked.
by the way these were files that i had deleted, and then i had emptied my recycling bin...they included some sonar project files and some reason files as well. it helped to be able to search with the utility using the correct file extensions, ie- for sonar files i searched for ".cwp"

good luck
2007/09/09 10:28:13
mgarrett010461

Lesson Learned for sure.... I don't mean to blame Cakewalk, I love the program feel its the best one out there. I dod not configure it specificaaly to auto save, my fault.. I though it defaulted (my fault.....).

I know its a BONEHEADED problem, should have a working battery at the least, hibernating would have been recoverable.

I was on stage, so I could not hit control-s.....

AUtosave is the correct way to fix the issue, and would have saved me..

Specifically I am wondering of there is a way to recover the files. (Not a sonar problem, an operator problem....).

mcg


2007/09/09 10:46:32
daveny5
CWP files aren't going to help you because you need the audio tracks and the audio tracks are not stored in a CWP file. A CWP only contains the MIDI tracks, mixer settings and pointers to the audio tracks, but not the tracks themselves. I recommend you search your hard drive for *.WAV and look for files saved at the time of your concert. Sonar saves the audio tracks in files named like Cxxxxxxxx.WAV. Its possible that Sonar saved some audio files as you were recording to conserve memory and those may be on your hard drive.
2007/09/09 10:52:39
hadje
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/collection/collid,1295-order,1-c,downloads/files.html

try one of these

use it to search your hard drive for .wav, .cwp, etc

peace
2007/09/09 17:14:59
mgarrett010461


OK, I have found the autosave and versioning intellegence built into Sonar which I will now use the NEXT TIME..... DOH.

The cwp project did not get saved because I never saved it. In the Audio file for the project, there are two files, of about
the correct length for the project, 758 Meg each...

When I try to import the files into a project that has what I think are the correct parameters, it says that the format is incorrect.

I have a feeling that the data is in those files... but since the files never got officially saved, there is some kin of isue. I tried some of the utilizites that
have been suggested, without success.

The files were recorded at 44100, 16 bit (I recorded the band before us with the same setup) when I create a project I get the same error.

Also, when I try to drag the corrupt files into the project which is working I get the same error. The origianl audio for that project plays fine.

HMM, I need to repair those two wave files, probably by somehow 'closing' them.....

Michael
2007/09/09 18:11:30
bitflipper
I'd be willing to take a look at those corrupt files and see if I can salvage them for you. Let me know.
2007/09/09 19:39:49
altima_boy_2001
ORIGINAL: mgarrett010461
The cwp project did not get saved because I never saved it. In the Audio file for the project, there are two files, of about
the correct length for the project, 758 Meg each...

When I try to import the files into a project that has what I think are the correct parameters, it says that the format is incorrect.

I have a feeling that the data is in those files... but since the files never got officially saved, there is some kin of issue. I tried some of the utilizes that
have been suggested, without success.

The files were recorded at 44100, 16 bit (I recorded the band before us with the same setup) when I create a project I get the same error.

You just need some audio editing software that can import RAW wave format like Adobe Audition. It will read in the samples in any format you specify and allow you to save a correctly formatted file.

Works kind of like MS Word does for extracting readable text from corrupt document files.
2007/09/09 20:35:56
jimack
Yeah, I'd give Adobe Audition a try. Or SoundForge, or maybe Audacity (it's free I believe).

Or better yet, take bitflipper up on his offer. If anybody could recover them, I'm sure he could.
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