I don't know what everyone is so worked up about. How long have CPUs been around the speed they're at now? They had 3ghz cpus what, ten years? Now they're stuffing more cores into one chip that's getting smaller? Seems to me heat is the main obsticle.

I don't know much about software but I read or heard somewhere that bloated software is another problem with generating heat in the CPUs. Is this true?

Maybe were on the verge of another new advance that will be significant in the end. So why worry?  What will happen will.

I just built a DAW a couple months ago and the i3770k seemed pretty sweet then. Went with an ASUS P8 Z77 mobo.

@Guitarpima... The way I'm viewing what Intel is doing is that they want to kill off the option of using other companies motherboards. Now Intel makes some nice boards but a) they seem to be limited to a few models which is a problem for folks like us who need/want specific ports, chipsets and various other features to do what we do (it took me forever to find the right MOBO for my system and even then it didn't want to play nice with my PCI based interface) and b) their boards are usually significantly more costly than companies like ASUS and Gigabyte.

There was only one board I found made by Intel that had all the features I wanted and it was advertised as a gaming MOBO. IIRC it was selling for around $250. The ASUS board I bought had more flexibility and port options and cost me $170 (actually it may have been less than that... I forget but it was significantly cheaper than the Intel offering).

This is indeed very bad news. It was hard enough trying to build a flexible quality DAW in the age of laptops, iThingies, ultra phones and what have yous. This will make it nigh impossible.

All I can say is thank goodness for the gaming community because without them pouring cash into the industry us DAW builders would be SOL.

I don't think the MB manufacturers will be out. They will probably have to hardwire the CPUs like Intel will do with their boards.

It's a few years off anyway.

If any of it is true, and if Intel could pull it off (remember Rambus memory) then it will just be a huge win for AMD, me thinks. The rest of the world isn't gonna just fall off the planet.

If its on the internet it has to be true right? Who is Semiaccurate anyway? Could the name have a clue?

"If its on the internet it has to be true right? Who is Semiaccurate anyway? Could the name have a clue?"


Ha...Good one.....

I was AMD for prob 10+ years but when I saw a recent lineup of procs based on abiility, it was INTEL at the top third...

so I updated my Phenom II X4 DDR2 system to an i5-3570 ($200)... ivy bridge.. put the Z77 mobo with it.  still running W732 bit.

just installed it yesterday... X2 seemed to run much smoother than before... i had a complex project, lots of vsts and vvocal, midi, vstis... 

tKx5050


If any of it is true, and if Intel could pull it off (remember Rambus memory) then it will just be a huge win for AMD, me thinks. The rest of the world isn't gonna just fall off the planet.

Me thinks what is happening is some consolidation in the Server arena. Basically, end-users don't care what runs a server, whether it's Windows, an IBM Mainframe, or a Linux box steam powered by Floyd and Bubba's still. However, business cares about cost and if they can get an inexpensive ARM to do the job at a significant savings watts/mips~flops - they'll go for it. So, it looks like they're dedicating some resourced to that effort by taking from mid-range PC's. There'll still be top-of-the-line and bottom-of-the-barrel equipment, but a thinner mid-model range. I don't think they can ignore the ASUS's and Foxconn's - that's way too much bread and butter income worldwide. 

I chose exactly the same as 'rsinger'.
I did have to update the drivers on everything to make it stable, but it is so quick.
Asus P8Z77 mobo, i7 3770k, ssd os drive.
16gig ram ddr3 ram.
win 7 64bit
X2 Producer.
All i need now is some more talent!