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2016/08/11 18:31:43
outland144k
Anderton
 
I guess you missed this statement that Cakewalk made in 2006:
 



This link is precious. It should be good for some much needed levity. 
 
It should be noted that there seems to a four year cycle to this ebb and flow of credulity and naivete. And it seems that for some inexplicable reason, we are in the fourth year of the cycle right now!
 
I don't know. I'm just sayin' that someone should investigate this. Okay?
 
 
 
 
2016/08/12 10:55:15
Steev
Anderton
The Grim
 
[playing the devils advocate] if you cared to take the time to look you could find untruths, perhaps not a broken promises as such, but certainly back flips to stated things, for example there will be no mac version for sonar to name one, and what do we have now? we all know that has been stated many times over the years, i am just stating a fact. if you are going to pretend to be squeaky clean, you best be squeaky clean. i know this will be roasted, turn inside out and flipped on it's head by the fanatics, but it is the truth none the less.



I guess you missed this statement that Cakewalk made in 2006:
 
"There will be a Mac version 10 years from now, because we have 100% accurate psychic abilities, and can see clearly into a future time when new technology we can't envision will exist and make a Mac port feasible! (And by the way, you might want to buy some Apple stock. Just sayin.')"




What a great link and fun place to visit.. It's amazing the things some people believe, simply because it's easier to accept than actually take the trouble to think for themselves.
 So I guess it's true... "TV has made us into what we are today". and our culture(s) are molded out of concentrated oxymoron labeled "Reality TV", and seasoned to taste with opinions distributed randomly over the Internet where we can pick and choose what to believe in and form our own reality that suits us and ignore the rest.
 
 And now I would like to take pause and offer one of the best bits of Rock & Roll Wisdom that come to mind from the mind of a rather young and idealistic loud mouth “Gatdamn Hippy” artist who hails by the name of Stephen Stills that has stuck with me for decades which goes something like this; " The power lines been drawn- nobody's right if everybody's wrong.”
 SO, umm, what in the name of Zeus’s  BUTTHOLE is a Buffalo Springfield, and why should we even believe in such “Gatdamn Hippy”  nonsense NOW when the powers that be refused to take heed in 1966?
 Well I donno, but I still can’t shake the feel’in that the answer lies deeply buried and hidden well with plain sight in there somewhere.
@ Gothic.Angle you can’t say po-tay-toes, and I can say and I can say X4!
That still does no essplain why whilst working in SONAR Platinum 2015, my new Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 gen 2 delivers a very deliciously exciting and ultimately inspiring reports of
Effective Latency at 96k/Hz;  0.7mssec, Input latency; 1.9 mssec, Output latency; 1.9 mssec, and completing the signal flow with a round trip latency of 3.9 mssec.
 For those who are too stuck on the politics of labeling stuff and don’t quite understand what those numbers mean, let’s just say it’s a specification of FAST + FAST+ FAST = FAST!
 I would also like to add that SONAR Platinum 2015 typically (baring any and all occasional unexpected buggyness) runs along very smoothly during this process capturing every note until I hit “Stop” and then it “stops responding” for 10 to 20 seconds. The cursor hangs up on the timeline, VU meters freeze in position.
 It will in fact start responding after a short wait that may feel like an eternity waiting to quick retake of a botched performance.
 And every time that happens, I kinda get upset. I’m sorry, maybe it’s a personality flaw, but when it happens and interrupts my muse, my muse want me to book a flight to Dallas, Texas, rent a car and drive about 80 miles west to Weatherford, and then punch my mother in the mouth for giving me birth.
 But instead I just do all my serious recording in SONAR X3 PE which by the way reports the same latency spec. and doesn’t hang, nor does it have any other weird quirky behavior issues and my Muse really, I mean REALLY loves and appreciates that.
 So to wrap this up in a nutshell, all is actually quite well here at Delirium Studio in the House of Steev.
 I can certainly appreciate Cakewalk’s forward thinking and achievements being made in making SONAR run on Apple computers, but truth be told, I don’t really give a monkey’s dead arse about that.
And at the risk of sounding like Donald Trump, I shall apologize ahead of time, I would like to quote myself; “Here at Delirium Studio in the House of Steev is all boils down ME, ME, ME!”
 And me thinks by comparison at this point SONAR Platinum is a very cool “Video Game” type experience, i.e. a great Toy with things I really love, yet don’t take seriously, simply because I can’t seem to get it to work reliably.
 Maybe on my next brand new computer build I’m planning next year I’ll give it another try, perhaps there is something I’m missing here in my current configuration that prevents it from working right that’s been handed down from so many generations of Cakewalk installs somewhere in my archives that corrupts the X4 a.k.a Platinum builds.
 If it works properly then, I shall consider upgrading. Until then, I’ll happily continue using my “Lifetime” SONAR X3e PE license, because there IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT!
Hee, hee, remember the sales hype about X3 when it was released about how great it is?
 Well I’m here it confirm, there is NOTHING added into Platinum that ever made X3 suck, LoL, I still got my ancient Dell laptop that refuses to running Win XP and SONAR 4 PE somewhere around here, and old retired workstation in the family room still being used as a media center running SONAR 8.5 PE powered by an old M-Audio Delta 1010 that can record 8 audio tracks at once all day long or until it runs out of hard drive space.
 And ya know what makes all these versions of SONAR far superior to Platinum?
 They were all my favorite technological “Break Thru” versions and they were all smoothed out and done cook’in well before the end of a year or another version came out.
 And THAT’S what created a steady stream of revenue and solid growth, and  many of all updated annually by CHOICE and loved it.
 And on it went for over a decade, and then a new and improved subscription plan happens which looks almost too good to be true, what with the monthly subscription plan pay as you play scheme and all which only cost $30 more than paying premium upgrade price seems more than fair.
 I might not be able to shell out $150 this soon after Christmas, but I can handle that, and I did. Only problem I had was, for the first time ever of being an avid fan and advocate of SONAR I didn’t get a solid smooth working version of SONAR by the end of the year..
 So I put the brakes on the monthly payment plan, and started conflating it to Ronald Reagan’s “Trickle Down Theory” which kinda looked great in theory, but ahhhhhh…………
 Well let’s just say that was a time before Cakewalk came into my life, but back in those days I had no problem paying cash for a brand new Tascam 8 track, which was soon (traded in for a 16 tracker, later upgraded to a couple DA-88’s) all fed by a really nice Allen & Heath desk, a Lexicon processor, an actual 4’x8’ plate reverb installed in it’s own closet, and my beloved Teletronix LA2A, an AKG 414, D 12, and a handful of Shure SM 57’s and 58’s.
 I still got the mics, but the rest wore and bore down on me in tandem with Ronald Reagan’s “Trickle Down Theory”.
 And for those of you who yern and lust and wax poetically for the days and glory of analog tape recording, It was NEVER what it is being cracked up to be today. It was an enormous amount of work getting out of it what you put into it, an ever exponentially increasing amount of work maintaining it, ongoing and quite expensive never ending supply of reels and reels, and reels, of tape that were cut up and edited with a razor knife.
 And sorry, but every time someone tells me that old vintage recording equipment is better than today’s DAWs and plugins, I can taste vomit in the back of my throat..
 And it’s the same feeling I get when someone  points out our queries are pointless and or insinuates that SONAR Platinum runs flawlessly on a 9 to 10 year old duel-core computer with 4 gigs of RAM, only makes me wonder if SPlat would even install on it..
 
 And while it certainly holds true about Mr. Anderton’s hedge bet on Apple stock should most likely pay off, I would think investing in VPU technology should pay a much more higher yield, because you could say that’s something that’s going to change how they and we think about and use both Apple and Microsoft software and hardware technology.
 
 
 
 
 
 
2016/08/19 10:00:17
gothic.angel

from:

http://www.cakewalk.com/June-2016#SONAR4Life 

What happens if the product name "SONAR Platinum" were to change to something different?

If you purchased lifetime updates for SONAR Platinum, you will get lifetime updates for SONAR Platinum. If we change the name of SONAR Platinum, you will get lifetime updates to the newly named version. It's as simple as that.
 
Regards.
2016/08/19 10:46:47
Bristol_Jonesey
Don't confuse 'em with FACTS Gothic!!
 
They'll need another layer of tin foil.
2016/08/19 13:14:10
gothic.angel
Bristol_Jonesey
Don't confuse 'em with FACTS Gothic!!
 
They'll need another layer of tin foil.




....got it mate..... 
...it was just to show this thread was clearly started upon non-existing bases ..............!
see ya soon.........
2017/05/15 22:41:08
mtgbuyer1
http://www.ericgarland.co/2016/09/27/gibson-rating-moodys/ I am sorry to say, it's all right here for those of you who have the will to look...
2017/05/15 23:05:16
Cactus Music
Interesting read.. You should have started a new thread as this ones outdated and most won't make it to the end because the topic is dated and information has changed a lot since it was started. Being smart I read the first post and skipped to the end. 
In the end on the topic of updates and all that stuff,  if The Cakewalk crew wandered off tomorrow never to be seen again I still have a pretty good DAW that I will use until my computer dies and there's no OS available to run it.
2017/05/15 23:39:15
Leee
OMG, why would you dig up a dead and buried thread from a year ago, that was a total alarmist reactionary thread even when it was alive.  Now all the folks who like to freak out instead of playing music will start freaking out again.

I definitely agree with Cactus Music, you should have started a new thread.  Some people not seeing the dates of the original posts will spend a half hour going through 6 pages of hysteria.  The Lifetime Update was and is a great deal for those who chose to subscribe.  It was a win/win deal.  Cakewalk is still in business and even if Gibson implodes, I'm sure Cakewalk will continue to thrive with another parent company. 

And like CM said, worse case scenario: If Cakewalk drops off the face of the world tomorrow, I'll still have one of the best DAWs made, that has been one of the least troublesome software I have ever worked with.

Nothing to see here, keep moving and creating music.
2017/05/16 13:51:46
rscain
mtgbuyer1
http://www.ericgarland.co.../gibson-rating-moodys/ I am sorry to say, it's all right here for those of you who have the will to look...

Writer's block, huh? Well, I'm sure the muse will strike soon and you can go back to making music instead of.....whatever the point of this was.
 
2017/05/16 14:37:55
Anderton
mtgbuyer1
http://www.ericgarland.co.../gibson-rating-moodys/ I am sorry to say, it's all right here for those of you who have the will to look...



...and are still living in September, 2016 
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