I think somebody is just trying to justify passing up the Platinum Lifetime Updates.
 
This =>  http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3599281
 
I have been with Cakewalk since the Pro Audio days, and have owned every version of Sonar except for three of them.
 
And I have had a few other DAWs too.  But I plan to support Cakewalk development as long as they are around, and whomever they are owned by. 
 
In my opinion, Cakewalk Sonar Platinum performance on Windows 10 is the best I have ever seen in a DAW.  I kind of doubt an obsolete software could perform this well on the latest Windows.

Anderton

mtgbuyer1
http://www.ericgarland.co.../gibson-rating-moodys/ I am sorry to say, it's all right here for those of you who have the will to look...

...and are still living in September, 2016 

Do you have any recent info on Moody's and S&P's appraisal of Gibson Brands? I'd have no idea where to look.

Sanderxpander

Anderton

mtgbuyer1
http://www.ericgarland.co.../gibson-rating-moodys/ I am sorry to say, it's all right here for those of you who have the will to look...

...and are still living in September, 2016 

Do you have any recent info on Moody's and S&P's appraisal of Gibson Brands? I'd have no idea where to look.

Moody's info is for registered users, you won't be able to access it directly. Why not ask mtgbuyer1? He's apparently an expert on the subject. I'm sure he even knows what Gibson has planned for 2018 and 2019.
 
 

I'm asking you because your post implied the situation is very different now, even though the Moody article suggested it was unlikely to improve in the short term. It's fine if you don't know either, I just got the idea from your post that you do.

Anderton
Moody's info is for registered users,

you can register for free but i don't think moodys have issued another rating since the one above? s&p are positive in the couple of updates this year
whatever happens to gibson i'm sure we'll still be seeing sonar around for some time

Sanderxpander
I'm asking you because your post implied the situation is very different now, even though the Moody article suggested it was unlikely to improve in the short term.

Gibson doesn't make roof tiles, this is a cyclical fashion industry and everything is subject to change. Moody's can report only on what's happened in the past, then do their best to extrapolate into the future. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't.
 
You might also want to look further into Eric Garland's writings about Guitar Center. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that companies whose primary source of income is big box retail are facing challenges. However, some companies have plans in place to deal with that reality. Others want to deny it. Personally, I'd bet on the companies that are making plans.

Thanks pwalpwal.

Craig, anyone can only report on what happened in the past, nobody can look into the future. Obviously Moody's can be wrong too. But they don't give out projections for laughs, I think it's a little too easy to proclaim them conjecture and dismiss them out of hand. I also don't see how GC's troubles make the situation any better for Gibson.

I'm not too worried about Sonar either, but the report is still troubling.

Sanderxpander
Thanks pwalpwal.

Craig, anyone can only report on what happened in the past, nobody can look into the future. Obviously Moody's can be wrong too. But they don't give out projections for laughs, I think it's a little too easy to proclaim them conjecture and dismiss them out of hand. I also don't see how GC's troubles make the situation any better for Gibson.

I'm not too worried about Sonar either, but the report is still troubling.

If only I had a dollar for every time someone predicted Gibson's demise, I could retire. 
 
The landscape for retail is devastating at the moment. Look at JC Penny's, Sears, Staples, etc. etc. etc. Companies in the forecasting business have never faced a bigger challenge in trying to anticipate what's next. The reality is no one knows - not me, not you, not Moody's.
 
The main point I'm making is that past performance is less of an indicator of future performance than ever. The best indicator of future performance is what's happening internally within companies to cope with the changing landscape. I don't know what Sears or Guitar Center are planning; I do know what Gibson is planning, and I'm betting on it. That doesn't mean I'll be right, but it's way too early to say I'll be wrong.
 
As one example...Moody's doesn't know about the two patents I've filed on behalf of Gibson, one of which is universally applicable to telecommunications.

It's to late, I just sold all my shares @ 1/2 price 
I bought more Apple. 

Anderton
If only I had a dollar for every time someone predicted Gibson's demise, I could retire. 
 

Yeah but that 7 bucks wouldn't last you long