I have been sent 2 seperate .cwb files by a fellow sonar user, who is using X1.  I am using X2.

Both bundles contain multiple instances of Dim Pro, audio, and TTS-1.  All the files are fine except for the Dim Pro tracks.  The Synths appear as frozen in the rack, only they haven't been frozen and the midi files don't play.  I cant open the synths to see what patches were loaded.  I know I can get the patches from the other user and re-instantiate the Dim Pro's, but, I intend to collaborate with this user in the future, so how can we stop this happening. 

All TTS1 synths work as expected, its just Dim Pro.

Any thoughts?

Make sure your both using the same exact Dim pro and TTs program. also, make sure your MIDI ins and outs are routed to your outs, as they may be routed to his outs, since it was configured on his pc


CJ

Thanks CJ I suspected it might be the version of Dim Pro, I'm on 1.5 but not sure what he is on.  

STinGA


I have been sent 2 seperate .cwb files by a fellow sonar user, who is using X1.  I am using X2.

Both bundles contain multiple instances of Dim Pro, audio, and TTS-1.  All the files are fine except for the Dim Pro tracks.  The Synths appear as frozen in the rack, only they haven't been frozen and the midi files don't play.  I cant open the synths to see what patches were loaded.  I know I can get the patches from the other user and re-instantiate the Dim Pro's, but, I intend to collaborate with this user in the future, so how can we stop this happening. 

All TTS1 synths work as expected, its just Dim Pro.

Any thoughts?

I think I may have seen this one before - I'm not sure what causes it. Try right-clicking on those synths - they might be disabled. It might be the '*' that you need to do this on.

I'd stick away from using cwb files.
 
Simply save as cwp file, and remember to check "save audio with project".

Thanks guys.... There's a thought, save as + audio then zip them to send maybe? 

Super G - I did try right clicking the synths but I couldn't see a way to reconnect them? Is that the way? 

STinGA


Thanks CJ I suspected it might be the version of Dim Pro, I'm on 1.5 but not sure what he is on.  

I would just ask him.
 
FYI: I get CWB files from time to time and i always tell the person to bounce all MIDI to audio before saving it to a CWB file.

Hi CJ, thanks again for the reply. 

I'm just wondering, if he freezes the synth, will that work the same as bouncing to audio, just in case I want to play the midi? 

If you have the same synths as your friend he should not need to freeze. 

Think about this most of the demo songs from CW play back just fine on any system as long as the system is up to it spec wise. They often come as bundle files.

The older ones have both MIDI and audio in them. Some of the newer ones as well.

The other question is if the FX in the project is the same on your system and his. Though Sonar can deal with this by alerting you that a plugin is missing. The project will still play back though. 

As to why your Dim Pro is not working using his tracks is a head scratcher. Even if you don't have the right patch the synth should still work. Also I'm not sure why it appears frozen if he didn't freeze it. 

What you may want to do is insert a new Dim Pro and output the MIDI track to it. Ask him for the patch he used and you should be good to go. 

I would also check which version he has of Dim Pro. As well as know exactly his version of Sonar as well as any patches to it. 

I have found that Sonar is remarkable in its ability to open old project files. It has been improved through the years to handle just about all issues. 

Keep in mind that bundle files are not played directly. They are uncompressed and a folder is created that holds the project file and a folder for any audio. It is this project that opens into Sonar. Not the bundle file.  That remains intact. 

Thanks for your reponse John.

The Dim Pro is the only synth in the project that is not working, all the other TTS-1s work as one would expect.  This is happening in two totally different projects.  

I do understand that the cwb is only a holder for the project and that it doesnt play directly.  The only possible reason I can think of is that Dim Pro is at a different version, although, that said the patches are the same.

I don't recall any CW Demo projects having any Dim Pro in them (of course I could be wrong) but even then it was only in recent times that Dim Pro got upgraded to 1.5 so it's not been something that we've had to worry about.  

I haven't had chance to ask but if he is using dim pro 1.2 then I am guessing my 1.5 isn't reading those files correctly.  It will be interesting to see. 

Off to find out!