• SONAR
  • CakeTV Live, Quick Bytes, Get Started, Go Deeper, and Master Classes in HD (with links) (p.23)
2012/05/01 21:01:55
Fog
Norrie


I am not trolling here but Seth what computer keyboard is Brandon using is it wireless ? I like small keyboards and that looks kinda neat almost like a mac keyboard but in black

someone asked that the last time , they did a webiner


they are micro keyboards.. FBB has one altough not as small he uses for screen sets if I remember correctly, sure he'll chip in. I did post on the thread regarding it also.. there are a few here >


http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Peripherals/cat/Keyboards-&-Mice/subcat/Wireless-Keyboards


2012/05/01 21:25:38
Zo
I introduced Sonar at the french SAE and after 8.5 , X1 is having a great  feedback from students and from a marginal % on my classes , now on my classes i can say 40% are going for it !! and i always tell them , don't trust me , try other first (cubase, pt, logic, ableton) and then choose ....
2012/05/01 21:45:01
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
Norrie


I am not trolling here but Seth what computer keyboard is Brandon using is it wireless ? I like small keyboards and that looks kinda neat almost like a mac keyboard but in black

I don't know. It's a small keyboard we picked up just for that setup. I'll have a look before the next CakeTV Live broadcast and will let you know.


SP
2012/05/01 21:49:30
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
JazzSinger


Am I allowed to ask a question here?

In the Webinar, you guys talk about synth plug levels being set too high and distorting by some folks and that thats not a good thing.

But for recorded tracks (microphone or DI'd), what nominal level should I be aiming for?

I do understand that, from a sound quality point of view and the 64bit sound engine it hardly matters, and in contrast to tape, with a DAW it's better to aim low. 

But surely FX plugs, especially compressors, expect a certain level to work properly?

So where should I aim for my average/max peak levels to be on naturally recorded instruments/vocals?

Even if I normalize or up the gain after the initial recording, what average level should I aim for?

I typically shoot for around -6 to -12 when recording audio and also mix my synths and other tracks in SONAR at the same level. Many soft synths are extremely loud and some even clip, so what I usually do is either turn the synth's main output down or adjust the Gain (Input Trim) on the Instrument or Synth track that the soft synth is feeding. 


I like adjusting the Gain because usually a synth's main output on the synth itself is set on a per=preset basis, so if I were to change the preset or patch in the synth the volume would go back up. Adjusting the Gain on the track level avoids this problem.


The reason I, and many other people (I didn't invent this technique), mix in the box this way is because it allows plenty of headroom for adding plugins to your tracks, and also allows plenty of headroom when processing the overall mix with master compression, limiting, etc. It's really at that final mastering stage that you want to get your track as loud as possible, not during mixing.


SP
2012/05/02 04:29:18
JoeOss
Watched last night, thought it was great, thanks for taking the time to put these together and keep them coming.
 
Just loving Sonar at the moment!!!
2012/05/02 09:46:14
Geo524
Fantastic coverage.  I totally enjoyed it. Sure hope you guys continue on with these webinars. Thanks again Brandon and Seth.
2012/05/02 12:27:01
biodiode
Watched it all last night as I could only see the first 30 minutes of the live session. These webinars open my eyes to different ways of doing stuff for instance, using the matrix to add vocal clips from movie dialogues; thought that was really cool.

Also liked the way you explained gain staging.

At least I didn't have to watch the discussion about time zones all over again :)

Can't wait till the next one.
2012/05/02 19:42:17
millzy
The stacking of synths and saving them all into a track template (with its own buss) is WAY cool! Thanks heaps guys, awesome job - love the song too!
2012/05/02 20:10:51
JazzSinger
Seth, thanks for the reply.

I guess I could have shortened my question by asking, "What is the new 0dB" :)
 
With my Tascam 244, we always tried to just flick the needle over 0dB into the red slightly. But in Sonar, the red already starts at -6dB!

OK, so go for between -6 and -12dB.

Thanks!
2012/05/02 20:28:13
chuckebaby
this was a great show guys,unbeliable sounds out of z3ta 2.
both of you are A-1 sauce.
looking forward to the next one  :)

C.baby
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