• SONAR
  • CakeTV Live, Quick Bytes, Get Started, Go Deeper, and Master Classes in HD (with links) (p.24)
2012/05/02 21:08:46
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
JazzSinger


Seth, thanks for the reply.

I guess I could have shortened my question by asking, "What is the new 0dB" :)
 
With my Tascam 244, we always tried to just flick the needle over 0dB into the red slightly. But in Sonar, the red already starts at -6dB!

OK, so go for between -6 and -12dB.

Thanks!

Analogue and digital are completely different in terms of meters and signal. The numbers may be the same, but they mean totally different things. Never bring pre-conceived notions about recording analogue into the digital world. -6 to -12 is perfect, IMHO, for modern 24-bit digital systems. If you want to add the 'warmth' that one could get by 'going into the red' in the analogue world, use the Saturation Knob or other plugin. :-)

Another reason why the old notion of 'get the signal as close to 0db as possible' in the analogue world was that the noise floor was MUCH higher. With a 24-bit digital system, that we all run today, the noise floor is DRASTICALLY lower and so there is not really the need to squeeze out every last db of signal to noise ration. I'm not saying go ahead and record at -30db and don't expect to hear the noise floor when you turn that signal up, because you probably will. It's just that -6 to -12 (not exact numbers, but in that ballpark) is an ideal balance between signal to noise ration and headroom between the signal and clipping (0dbfs).

SP
2012/05/02 21:10:16
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
Thanks you all for watching and leaving cush glowing remarks! (feel free to keep them coming) 


We'll definitely be doing this again (the plan is every other month) and will post here and send out emails once we have the date figured out.


SP
2012/05/03 02:06:58
melmyers
I was all set to watch live last week...and then some work came up. Finally got a chance to catch the presentation on YouTube.

Excellent! No matter how much I think I know about Sonar, you always do something that gives me new insight.

Please keep the training sessions coming. If you continue to help us learn to fully utilize the program, Sonar will rule the world!
2012/05/03 15:07:09
Benny Bear
Couldn't watch last week, just viewed on Youtube. 

For those who work entirely alone it is good to see how the experts do it - the similarities and differences in methods / workflow.

I look forward to the next one. Many thanks.
2012/05/03 16:28:30
Grumbleweed_
Is it me or does adding the Mastering Limiter add a nasty distortion? At the end when the full track is playing the ML is off (by mistake) and when it is added the mix in my headphones sounds.....yuck.
The rest of the video is very interesting and makes me realise there a fair few features in Sonar that are ignored.

Grum.
2012/05/03 18:27:53
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
grumbleweed4162


Is it me or does adding the Mastering Limiter add a nasty distortion? At the end when the full track is playing the ML is off (by mistake) and when it is added the mix in my headphones sounds.....yuck.
The rest of the video is very interesting and makes me realise there a fair few features in Sonar that are ignored.

Grum.
That's distortion of the A/V equipment that was capturing the broadcast, not the Concrete Limiter. We'll tweak the setup to make sure it doesn't happen again next time.


SP


2012/05/04 06:28:21
SGodfrey
Hi Brandon & Seth,
 
Brilliant tutorials, I am learning a lot!  I hope you don't mind a quick question:- you had a problem at one point during the tutorial where the midi keyboard was playing the wrong synth, even though the one you wanted was in focus.  It looked like you changed the input echo button somewhere to sort it out.  Can you please explain this?  I get this problem a lot and don't really understand the input echo button, also the button is sometimes half highlighted - what's that mean?
 
Thanks,
Simon
2012/05/05 01:53:23
Zo
Am i the only one that find that Seth could play a "russian terrorist or mafia guy" in a action movie ?

Great show guyz !!
2012/05/05 08:02:31
kson
Seth, I loved the way your head started bobbing every time the space bar was hit. Lol. Cheers, RKS
2012/05/06 05:15:43
FastBikerBoy
I've just caught up at last. I thought it was great, even better than the last one. I've gained a couple of ideas that may mean I open the matrix view even.
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