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2012/12/05 18:10:20
Telecaster
I think it was a good thing in respect of maybe financially secure the future of Cakewalk, because as Bitflipper said X2 would have happened any way.

@Bub - if you are that unhappy with Sonar, why don´t you find another DAW and move on?
2012/12/05 18:21:27
jb101
Telecaster


I think it was a good thing in respect of maybe financially secure the future of Cakewalk, because as Bitflipper said X2 would have happened any way.

@Bub - if you are that unhappy with Sonar, why don´t you find another DAW and move on?
I think this applies to a few mcq users on here. 
 
Just my opinion.  No more or less valid than anyone else's.
 
I'd rather spend my time making music and, if I had to, learning another DAW.  Latest Cubase doesn't look too bad (I had an earlier one).  Maybe Studio One.  But I'm happy with X2, so I won't bother for now..
 
edited for typo
2012/12/05 18:30:15
Telecaster
jb101


Telecaster


I think it was a good thing in respect of maybe financially secure the future of Cakewalk, because as Bitflipper said X2 would have happened any way.

@Bub - if you are that unhappy with Sonar, why don´t you find another DAW and move on?

I think this applies to a few mcq users on here. 
 


@jb101 - You are probably right, and I´ll be the first to admit that I don´t use it as much and as deeply as other users, but so far I have had absolutely no crashes or any other issues that bothered me. Having said that I just build my self a new £1200 PC that is quite powerfull and only for DAW, maybe that is why I am happy:-)
2012/12/05 18:41:41
jb101
Telecaster


jb101


Telecaster


I think it was a good thing in respect of maybe financially secure the future of Cakewalk, because as Bitflipper said X2 would have happened any way.

@Bub - if you are that unhappy with Sonar, why don´t you find another DAW and move on?

I think this applies to a few mcq users on here. 
 

@jb101 - You are probably right, and I´ll be the first to admit that I don´t use it as much and as deeply as other users, but so far I have had absolutely no crashes or any other issues that bothered me. Having said that I just build my self a new £1200 PC that is quite powerful and only for DAW, maybe that is why I am happy:-)
 
I was in total agreement with you, Telecaster.
 
I use it quite a lot (it's part of my job), and I use it pretty deeply, I think.  I also find it stable.
 
I just like the improvements, as they relate to my workflow.  Others don't, and that's fair enough.  If one doesn't, then consider, as you say, moving on.  I just don't understand some of the mcq-tips types on here who hang on for years slating the direction Cakewalk has taken.  I, personally, would have moved on to pastures greener.
 
Just my opinion.  No more valid than anyone else's.
2012/12/05 19:12:38
jm24
Hardware dudes do not understand software, in general.

Decluttering is the latest mental illness.   Way stupid.

I want the tools I use most often to be immediately available.

We went through this insanity with hardware synths years ago.  Too few buttons, too many menus.

Hopefully we are at the top of the stupid hill with the hidden track-lanes menu button.


Roland's purchase of CW was a ME-TOO reaction to other hardware companies creating/acquiring of software products.

But the classic model is large company buys small company, does stupid crap, drops prices, stops/slows new development, and milks it to the end.

Commodore - Amiga
MS - Soundscape, Fox Pro,,,.......and way too many other programs
Apple - Logic

And so on.


2012/12/05 19:21:19
Bub
Telecaster

@Bub - if you are that unhappy with Sonar, why don´t you find another DAW and move on?
I'm not "that" unhappy with Sonar. I just don't like all the changes and I don't agree with the opinion that X2 would have happened anyway.

But I can understand why you would ask that.

Thanks,

Bub.
2012/12/05 19:32:42
jb101
jm24


Hardware dudes do not understand software, in general.

Decluttering is the latest mental illness.   Way stupid.

I want the tools I use most often to be immediately available.

We went through this insanity with hardware synths years ago.  Too few buttons, too many menus.

Hopefully we are at the top of the stupid hill with the hidden track-lanes menu button.


Roland's purchase of CW was a ME-TOO reaction to other hardware companies creating/acquiring of software products.

But the classic model is large company buys small company, does stupid crap, drops prices, stops/slows new development, and milks it to the end.

Commodore - Amiga
MS - Soundscape, Fox Pro,,,.......and way too many other programs
Apple - Logic

And so on.
+1 with th Hardware synths - too few buttons.
 
Sorry if I'm being stupid, but what do you mean by "the hidden track-lanes menu button"?
2012/12/05 19:45:34
cornieleous
Personally, I absolutely love Roland gear. My first synthesizer purchased 12 years ago was a Roland and I still have it. I also started with Cakewalk on Pro Audio 9, and upgraded each year until X2. For me, the X series and skylight revolution is not a good direction - was this Roland? I sort of doubt that. The interface in the X series is messy and dumbed down significantly from a nicely customized and minimal Sonar 8.5.3. I'll keep beating that dead horse until its made right - X1/2 just doesn't cut it in so many ways - not sure if Roland is to blame or not.
2012/12/05 19:58:34
cornieleous
By the way jb101 - whats with those "typos"? Seems pretty childish to me. What kind of passive aggressive crap is that? Many of the longtime users are hanging around because nothing better than 8.5.3 has come out in another brand or from Cakewalk.
2012/12/05 20:00:38
Splat
I think X2 will be the best DAW ever. Just needs a few more service packs, give it until mid next year maybe. Until then X1D takes crown.

Cheers...
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