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2012/12/06 09:36:23
Jonbouy
WDI


I just thank The Lord that Microsoft doesn't own cakewalk like apple owning logic. That way we'd have updates once every four years.


IMO, it's not about the frequency of updates, but about the quality of the features in place. Sometimes it seems like cakewalk should slow down and perfect thier ideas. Often it seems like they go in a new direction just to get people to upgrade leaving some very basic things not working as good as they should. 

This is the key, in X2 you can now clearly see where many of the changes that appeared in X1 were going and how they were intended to be.
 
It takes more than one iteration on a frequent release cycle to fully implement an over arching strategy.
 
So the trade off is you either recieve regular partly implemented upgrades which help fund further development or you wait for all the changes to be fully implemented before a release.  It has to be one way or the other it seems as no company has unlimited resources they can devote to development. Having seen now some of the features in X2 I can understand X1 better, X1 was a difficult move to understand because it broke so many things, X2 is the start of the structure being built on the foundations X1 brought in.  It makes far more sense already than X1 ever did throughout it's cycle.  That there are far fewer issues appearing here and X2 hasn't even recieved a full service pack yet is in stark contrast to X1 even after had recieved several.  I'm also seeing some faces re-appear after X1 contributed to many of them disappearing.
 
As for the buy-out, normally there isn't a choice for the company nor customers over these things, whether any of us end up happy only time can tell.  Everyone's future is uncertain just now Cakewalk and Roland are no exception, it is how it is.
2012/12/06 09:36:35
garrigus
Bristol_Jonesey

D50 for me - and I still use it, albeit sparingly
Cool... I remember that board. It was used in a bunch of 80's tunes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exVgx1kMFgk


Scott

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2012/12/06 09:37:53
garrigus
jb101

Roland JX-3P for me.  Still used it until quite recently.  May break it out again if I can rearrange my studio a bit.  Still using my XP-60.
Did that one come out before the JX-8P? I can't remember...


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2012/12/06 10:01:32
The Maillard Reaction


Roland is going to ask 100 of it's more highly valued employees to volunteer to be fired this Christmas season. The lucky ones are going to get a nice good bye package.




I think Roland has been out of touch with the street retail market for years.

I also think Cakewalk was drifting away from the sensible and effective decision making it was founded on.

The match up has been like a perfect storm... Roland was worth less than it has ever been in it's entire history as a publicly traded company just last October. It's doing a little better now but it's still in the all time low range.

Roland is not in a position to give Cakewalk the support it needs at this moment and Cakewalk isn't a very large part of Roland's revenue. Roland has a lot of stuff going on that it has to focus on or make go away and it is in the process of doing it.

After it gets rid of the 100 employees as it has announced it will, the opportunity to revive the company will be left to less expensive and perhaps less experienced employees.

I hope someone figures out that there is an ever growing number of musicians on the planet and that they can connect Roland with the musicians' actual interests... I'd like the company that makes my favorite DAW to stick around for a long time.

I hope Cakewalk gets back to the point where it sells gobs of good stuff at full price instead of pretending that discounting, freebies, and looking the other way when it doesn't work out is a long term strategy for success. 

Good luck.


best regards,
mike




2012/12/06 10:25:14
John T
Yes, street retail, clearly where the 21st century software business is at. 
2012/12/06 11:28:52
Bub
John T

Yes, street retail, clearly where the 21st century software business is at.
I'm not following you, what do you mean by that?
2012/12/06 11:52:23
cryophonik
I think the whole deal was an evil conspiracy by Roland to steal Brandon.  Now that they've got him, they're going to cut off development of all Cakewalk products.



2012/12/06 11:54:36
Bristol_Jonesey
Bub


John T

Yes, street retail, clearly where the 21st century software business is at.
I'm not following you, what do you mean by that?


Not to be taken literally Bub - at least I don't think so
2012/12/06 11:55:11
Brando
cryophonik


I think the whole deal was an evil conspiracy by Roland to steal Brandon.  Now that they've got him, they're going to cut off development of all Cakewalk products.



Nice hat - if you put a Roland logo on 'em you could sell 'em in the Cake store.
2012/12/06 12:02:03
cryophonik
Brando


cryophonik


I think the whole deal was an evil conspiracy by Roland to steal Brandon.  Now that they've got him, they're going to cut off development of all Cakewalk products.



Nice hat - if you put a Roland logo on 'em you could sell 'em in the Cake store.


That's not me BTW - I'm much nerdier purtier.

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