For those of us that bought notion 3 when it was a special offer a couple of years ago. Now if you like you can upgrade it to x64. IIRC the upgrade download is $49.99. I tested the rewire and it does work but it will not support 48khz only 44.1khz. Just a heads up.

I am having very poor results with rewire 64 bit and Notion. Suddely I have clackling audio all over the place. I have a i7 processor with 16GB memory, and a Presonus FP10 firewire, so machine performance it is not. It worked fine in 32 bit. My only assumption is that the rewire drivers just does not work as advertised. I have no other 64 bit rewire programs, so it is not possible to narrow it down further.

I tested the rewire and it does work but it will not support 48khz only 44.1khz. Just a heads up.

Doh! So how many more years to get 48kHz support, I wonder. 

I hope there are some good new features along with the x64 support for $50. But if it can't do 48kHz, I'll probably skip it anyway.

Most sample libraries are 44.1khz, so not much point in working in 48kHz...

My last interface (E-MU 1820m) ran better and was more stable at 48kHz (supposedly the "native" clock rate for most Creative/E-MU hardware) so I switched over a few years ago. I'm not about to go back now with so many projects recorded at that rate.  I also liked the idea that 48kHz gives more room for anti-aliasing filters to have a less aggressive slope to help preserve high-end, though I won't begin to pretend I could actually hear it. 

I was able to get it to work at 48khz but its not optimal. I had to transpose the score down 1/2 step and then use the tuning slider in Notion to get it in tune.

Not something I would suggest. However I was not getting any dropouts and such. I may create a 44.1 project just to play with but not sure its worth the effort at this point.

I was hoping for much more. I put in a feature request to Notion to add the option to detune their audio so it would play back in tune when driven at 48Khz. That would be the simplest approach since the upsampling would all occur in the re-wire audio stream.

Thats my Hypothesis anyway and I'm sticken to it. 

The Notion forum seems to be overshadowed by one user that is very inprossed with himself. Not like our forum .......  LOL 

Tom RiggsThe Notion forum seems to be overshadowed by one user that is very [impressed] with himself.

Holy $#!+. That guy is just not sane, pure and simple.  And you guys thought I was pedantic... 


Tom, I just found your post on the Notion forum about the 48kHz issue. I had sort of forgotten about the problem, and went ahead and shelled out for the upgrade. My first project happened to be a very old one that was 44.1kHz, so I didn't see the problem until the Rewire connection in that project started acting up, and I xferred all the tracks to a new 48kHz project.


What a mess. Is there another audio app on the planet that costs more than nothing and doesn't support 48kHz? And it's not just Notion's internal sounds; even VSTis hosted in Notion play back a whole-step high (48/44.1) when rewired to 48kHz SONAR. An inexcusable shortcoming in my view.


In general, I find the product to be under-developed in may ways, but it has a few unique features (in addition to generating notation vastly superior to SONAR's) that make it attractive. It's disappointing when a product with such great potential has a fatal flaw like this. 


In any case, I'll go ahead and add my feature request to yours. And I hope that any other non-44.1kHz SONAR-Notion users here might do the same.

Is it possible to use Notion4 rewired for just the Midi/Staff editing features and not use the Notion sound sets??

Bill51...48k is a big deal if you work with picture. The sound of the 44.1 libraries won't be any better as you are pointing out,  but all my clients are editing in 48K. 

Unfortunately, there's really no support for exchanging/transmitting MIDI between SONAR and Notion in either direction (AFAIK), other than by importing/exporting MIDI/musicXML files.

All you can do is slave Notion's audio engine to SONAR. In addition to having to do this at 44.1kHz, I've found that the Notion's transport is not fully slaved; when you change the Now time in SONAR, Notion's playback cursor doesn't jump to the new SONAR location until you start playback. 

Incidentally, it seems Notion just pushed out a 4.0.313 update, but there's not a word on their website that I can find about what's in it. 

Thanks for the heads up about the update Brundlefly. The way I worked with it before is a pain. but still the only viable option. I have to export a 44.1 wave from sonar and import it into Notion. Then I can create the parts I want and reverse the process exporting the tracks from Notion and importing back into Sonar. Its a pain but it does work.