ps Nobody said you know nothing John...but you seem to have some matcho thing about computers going on John. I really don't understand what your issues is... But OK I give in, I'd rather not beat my own drum if you want to play who is better than the other person rather than discuss and debate facts....

I have been building computers since the ZX80 came out. I've been building PC's for almost 30 years. I have worked for ICL, Samsung, JDS Uniphase and silicon valley based companies. I have probably built over a thousand PC's in my lifetime. Actually that only taught me the basics, developing software gave me a lot more experience that slotting an airfix kit together.
Oh and my degree is in computers and I have worked a two major recording studios you might have heard of. ...
None of that is important when it comes to my last post or the post before... Frankly I don't give a darn about people experience, who they are or what they have done, all I care about is proven facts and whether they are nice people or not. 

Time for your cup of coco Major.

Hang on you say you don't have speedstep and yet Intel says you have with a Q6600.
I thought you knew all about computers John, I guess Intel is wrong...
I bow myself to your superior knowledge - now it is the motherboard that doesn't support it (you better keep your motherboard name quiet in case I come up with yet another inconvenient fact that flies in the face of your superior knowledge;).

CakeAlexS


ps Nobody said you know nothing John...but you seem to have some matcho thing about computers going on John. I really don't understand what your issues is... But OK I give in, I'd rather not beat my own drum if you want to play who is better than the other person rather than discuss and debate facts....

I have been building computers since the ZX80 came out. I've been building PC's for almost 30 years. I have worked for ICL, Samsung, JDS Uniphase and silicon valley based companies. I have probably built over a thousand PC's in my lifetime. Actually that only taught me the basics, developing software gave me a lot more experience that slotting an airfix kit together.
Oh and my degree is in computers and I have worked a two major recording studios you might have heard of. ...
None of that is important when it comes to my last post or the post before... Frankly I don't give a darn about people experience, who they are or what they have done, all I care about is proven facts and whether they are nice people or not. 

Time for your cup of coco Major.

No not not at all, I just can't abide your attitude. Its smug and presumptuous. 

> Further I do know quite a bit about computers. I build them.  Been doing so for over a decade. Nor do I need a lecture on this subject from you. You presume way too much.  You have been on here for a couple years I have been here since before there was a forum. I have forgotten more than you ever knew. What you should do is go back and read my posts from the very beginning to get a handle on what I do know.  You should try to contain yourself here and learn from the rest of us. Not try to lecture people that have been doing this a very long time.


And the name of your motherboard is.... that supports chips with speedstep but doesn't have speedstep built in? ;).
Oh knowledgeable one we all bow down to who should not be lectured who hear any opinion contrary to his own, esp from those who he presumes are less experienced than him, who are especially not his equal....

Alright, everybody hit the deck! The forum police are here!

"OK, which one of you knuckleheads..." 

Ha :).

Still I'm loving this... If you dish it out you gotta take it.

* Have you noticed better core scheduling? I have.  
Alex its easy to compare X1/X2 by looking at the CPU meter in the CB on different OSs. It doesn't require any special skill just a glance. On Vista one core is always way above all the others. On Windows 8 they all are even.

Er nope, not without benchmarking... if it's that visibile difference with your eyes that is not core scheduling at work. Most likely core parking/speedstep or wishful thinking. You have to have a massive difference for it to be really visible with your own eyes so it's probably core parking or drugs.

* How do you switch it off? - Try setting your Windows power profile to performance mode.

Er no registry hack for power profile or go into BIOS and turn off speedstep.

* I've not seen a major difference in core scheduling between Win7x64 and Win8x64.

Interesting. It could be that no OS would ever have the gall to give you problems.

Er no it's probably because Jim did an upgrade and John did a clean install. Or a motherboard/registry setting is different. Or maybe no crack involved within observed results.

* Please understand the difference between power management saving of CPU cores vs core scheduling - they are two entirely different things, although both manipulate which core should be used next... so it's easy to misunderstand that they are both one and the same.

Nor do I need a lecture on this subject from you. You presume way too much.

Right ho John. All your answers have been totally right so far ;).

> Alex I have a Q6600. It does not support speed step.

Er a quick google and we can find out it does....

> Not try to lecture people that have been doing this a very long time.

Er the assumption is that I haven't. Wrong again (see previous posts, not gonna bang my drum again). Although my badge says "silver" and his is platinum :). Guess more posts in one forum means more experience ;).

We still don't know what motherboard he is using...  I haven't seen a uncompatible motherboard that supports chips that support speedstep. That doesn't mean to say this doesn't exist, so hopefully he will at least get this one right... Or he might end up going quiet on this one....

Well anyway like John implies, all I do is lecture and talk crap (that's probably fair comment, I can't prove it otherwise), I should bow down to my masters who are self declaired more experienced - they can build their own PC you know. Those who buy standalone PC's from manufacturers clearly really don't know what they are doing ;) So says the Lord..

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John


Alex I have a Q6600. It does not support speed step. Further I do know quite a bit about computers. I build them. 

Been doing so for over a decade. The reason I ask Jim things is because I respect him. Does that mean I don't know the answers? You would be making an error if you thought so. 

Nor do I need a lecture on this subject from you. You presume way too much.

Let me put it another way when I need your help I will ask for it. 

You have been on here for a couple years I have been here since before there was a forum. I have forgotten more than you ever knew. What you should do is go back and read my posts from the very beginning to get a handle on what I do know.

You should try to contain yourself here and learn from the rest of us. Not try to lecture people that have been doing this a very long time.

I hope I have made myself clear. 

John,  If CakeAlexS quit trying to lecture people on computers he'll just double up on lecturing about forum posting and behavior.  It's a lose lose.

Well as you point it out in the quote John clearly believes this to be his own thread. He also has the right to post potentially misleading posts or answers without any accountability or question as he is more senior and respected. Simply pointing out facts about what could be actually happening should not be tolerated as he is a Godlike ball of knowledge that should not be questioned. One should not assume or suggest anything, that is only his right. In fact one should deem this a "lecture". Who am I to say otherwise as a "silver" member.