Gentlemen,
 
Busted again by the wife… Some of you will no doubt resonate with this.
 
Found out my Reverberate 2 convo reverb had massive downloads of the IR files on the webpage that were only sparsely represented in the original. What’s 8 GB files in the grand schemata of things, only that it bad timing clogged up the computer when she was wanting to watch a streaming documentary.
 
Hoarding again?...
Uh..I was only…they didn’t include these…they didn’t cost anything…but…but…
 
Busted big time nonetheless. At least she lets me drink beer out of the closet.
 
Occurred to me that if we are trying to make money off of our music, we could likely make a lot more being TV stars.
Checking out Hoarders TV show, they usually have some fat chick (or guy) with garbage piled to the gills. Then the drama of protective services coming in with blazing guns, and a hazmat team trying to clean the place up.
 
Looked around my humble rental, and everything is clean and sentient. Peace and simplicity a blessing in the observable landscape.
 
HOWEVER….
 
Underlying the false sense of simplicity, there is the cancerous sickness of digital hording. Many times over the Library of Congress volume. An intricate maze of archives, meticulously tendered and groomed. Replaced with the faintest KRV hint that one of them has been upgraded.  Folders within folders within folders of vst effects and vsti synths.  Beyond the capacity of human intellect to keep track of, but it keeps growing.
 
So here’s the spin. First dude to get hold of the Hoarders producers will be a star. Tried to contact them myself but said I have to do Facebook which I have no commerce with out of choice.
 
Think of it. Hoarders doing a new spin on hoarding, but this time digital.
 
Confident that everyone here, myself first and foremost, are incorrigible offenders who need to be hauled off for therapy.
Trying again to contact Hoarders if no one beats me to it.
 
Sob story beyond redemption, and money to help dry the tears for the right to document the affliction.
 
John

The Lovely Lady knows not what I download since I acquired 75/75 internest service.
 
My 4TB samples drive is just over half full of sound libs. SONAR reports 1821 plugins found.
 
If the Hoarders producers were to interview me and myolpal, he'd get on the show. I'm a neophyte compared to him I'm sure.

You need MOAR INTERNETS :D. I live alone but have 300/30 and it is glorious. It makes digital hoarding so much easier. Also Amazon has an unlimited backup service, so I can offload my hoard to them as needed.

Sycraft
Also Amazon has an unlimited backup service, so I can offload my hoard to them as needed.

So you use the internet to store what you get off the internet. Brilliant!

Wondering what you guys think about this... Experience with convolution versus analog reverb approach.
 
I got all the gigabytes Reverberate 2 impulses finally donloaded and working. Wife has forgiven me for clogging up the local datastream. Realizes out of compassion that I have terminal hoarding sickness with no cure.
 
Hundreds of new presets all over the place, every room, hall, chamber, ambient, everything else. Big chunk of the hard drive taken up by the IR's.
 
Quality for sure, but unless I'm missing something, they all sound about the same. Meaning that there are different decays, eq subtleties and the like, but ultimately minor tweeks on the same theme. This has been my experience with all the convolution reverbs.
 
A lot of storage is taken up with GB of other IR's as well outside the Reverberate collection, but starting to think that this is a major waste of space. Can get more miles out of a good analog rig like Valhalla Room.
 
Have created some good mangled IR's to throw in variation taking advantage of the concept. Valuable medium, but wonder if we gain any benefit from a monster IR library. Maybe just a few files to capture the essence of convolution is all that is needed. I'm not sure any more if my 13 GB library of IR's is worth the storage space or the grief going through them trying get that perfect reverb setting.
 
Did we get taken by convolution?
 
John
 
 

Help me out. How many IR files do you guys actually ever use? What is the appeal?
I only 'help' instrument hoarders I'm afraid. I don't understand IR...

Bigcatt,
 
My question exactly.
 
To my layman understanding, the IR files are wave trails from either a balloon being popped or a gun going off in some environment. I used to surgically take off the actual blast in home made files, but doesn't seem to make a lot of difference. Balloons and guns because most of the audible spectrum is blasted into the space being recorded. Much depends on the mic capturing the event. Ideal application is then that any frequency fed into the convolution machine resonates like in the original setting.
 
So I've got this insane library of blasts from Taj Mahal to ancient cathedrals and crypts. Natural forests and Grand Canyon rim. Parking garages, bathrooms...
 
Massive libraries, but they all seem to just alter the decay of one sound, give and take some eq editing. I question if massive gigabyte libraries taking up space on the hard drive are of any more use than just a couple megs of well chosen samples.
 
Granted, there are some insane applications. Artificial manipulation of the original IR or extreme natural environments. I'd posted a couple files awhile back. Mangled wave, a synthetic warp of a cathedral. Scotland wave, supposedly the longest natural trail on earth we've found yet. By the landslide response here, can only assume that everyone was speechless in awe.
 
Most of the generic waves are cool on their own, but just like all the others side by side. I ended up filling a disc with subtle nuances and getting nothing in return from the excess. Not the brightest bulb in this technology, but beginning to think that there is more hype than substance. Interested to hear others' experience and opinions.
 
John

bapu
So you use the internet to store what you get off the internet. Brilliant!

Yes. It is hoarding-inception :D.

Just a passing reference. You may not be able to even find the freebie anymore, but can PM me if interested.
 
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/origami-by-magix
 
Paid version needs a dingle or dongle, whatever they call it. Yellow tools Origami convolution reverb. Taken over by Magix. Too complex for my simple mind to follow all the changes and hands over to other developers offering a feast of limited IR inclusions for cheap, and there are a ton of libraries for about $20 apiece.
 
Gets back to my evolving suspicion about convolution reverb technology being in excess. Know little to nothing about convolution as applied to cabinets and effects as touted by Nebula and the like.
 
Origami has or had a free version of their convolution reverb. Free meant that there were a limited library of included IR's, but you could not load external files without purchasing the full version, then the restriction was taken off.
 
Hi point of the free version is the inclusion of Elastique stretch of the IR. Broad spectrum of sound that covers about any and every reverb need with grace, with a little love and careful tweeking.
 
Couple hundred dollars more and I can get the dangle version and load external IR's. Beginning to realize that this is a waste of money. The included IR's do everything in the free version, and very little to be gained by opening the flood gates. Flipping a coin about whether to get rid of my IR libraries as an excess. Honestly can't tell a Briscoti from a Yamaha, from a Lexicon in any of the convolution engines. It all sounds the same. Admit my hearing is losing some acuity over time, but realizing my fervent chase for boutique IR's is both a waste of time and waste of space.
 
John