AdamGrossmanLG

AndertonIt's like the people who have a problem and so they re-install Windows and re-install SONAR...then find out updating their audio interface driver was the correct solution.

this cant be an audio interface problem, I am not using the MIDI on my audio interface, plus I've had this with 3 different audio interfaces now.  Scarlett, Audient and Behringer.

And while we're at it...I didn't say it was an audio interface problem. I drew an analogy - that's what "it's like" means.

test
 
Dang forum gremlins
 

Anderton

AdamGrossmanLG
Also I did not delete the file as Anderton assured me its not a Sonar issue.

That's not true, and if you can't read what I wrote correctly, it begs the question of whether you can read the solutions that others have offered correctly. For the record, I said:
 
"Well of course it very well could be [a bug], and it's even likely. But whether it's a bug in SONAR, Windows, the controller, USB handling, hardware, or the user's understanding of how all these work together is the question."
 
And:
 

"And if it's only happening for you, wouldn't it be logical to say it's MOST LIKELY something specific to your system or installation?"

 
And:
 
"You want to believe it's something with SONAR. Fine, maybe it is and I realize that's your go-to."
 
Facts are facts. Good luck.

Actually it is kinda true, and you kinda did, at least you certainly left him with the impression that it wasn't SONAR, it was probably this from page 1, among other things
 

Anderton

AdamGrossmanLG
probably just poor coding as usual with Cakewalk.

 
Actually it's almost certain that it isn't, given that no one else is chiming in to say they've experienced this problem.
 

 
And that quote that you used to try and show you didn't say it
 

"Well of course it very well could be [a bug], and it's even likely. But whether it's a bug in SONAR, Windows, the controller, USB handling, hardware, or the user's understanding of how all these work together is the question."
 
 

well, it actually came from a reply to me, which was well after the event in discussion where you at the very least certainly gave the OP the impression that it wasn't SONAR. tisk tisk
 
Facts are facts
Good Luck
 
 

tried putting a virtual midi cable between it and sonar?

pwalpwal
tried putting a virtual midi cable between it and sonar?

nope.  don't know what that is and why should it be needed?   Sonar should be able to recieve the midi data without it, just like every other application on my PC.

Anderton

AdamGrossmanLG
Also I did not delete the file as Anderton assured me its not a Sonar issue.

That's not true, and if you can't read what I wrote correctly, it begs the question of whether you can read the solutions that others have offered correctly. For the record, I said:
 
"Well of course it very well could be [a bug], and it's even likely. But whether it's a bug in SONAR, Windows, the controller, USB handling, hardware, or the user's understanding of how all these work together is the question."
 
And:
 
"And if it's only happening for you, wouldn't it be logical to say it's MOST LIKELY something specific to your system or installation?"
 
And:
 
"You want to believe it's something with SONAR. Fine, maybe it is and I realize that's your go-to."
 
Facts are facts. Good luck.

Well you have suggested many times it is a user issue or other environmental issue..  I also opened up that file to check what is inside it.... not much really?  Seems like it will just re-create the input and output entries.  Maybe I will have to re-do my control surface?

Either way, I didn't do it because I didn't understand the point?  Is this how I am supposed to work with the product, always having to delete this file?   
 
Oh and I don't WANT to believe anything, and have no care in the world who's "Fault" it is.  Software is complex, especially Sonar.  Of course there is always going to be something that needs some fixing, and I understand that.  Originally when I came here to this forum, I thought I would just point it out to hopefully bring awareness and maybe it can get resolved in a future release.   I always am friendly to start, no reason not to be.  I just found it a little frustrating (as you may remember from some other posts), where I am running into people claiming I have a poor attitude or who don't like I am criticizing the product.   I feel everyone took what I was saying too personally to be honest.

Anyway, lets just hope we can finally figure this out. I will report back here.  I haven't used the DAW the last 3 days, next week I will and will report back here.

AdamGrossmanLG

pwalpwal
tried putting a virtual midi cable between it and sonar?

nope.  don't know what that is and why should it be needed?   Sonar should be able to recieve the midi data without it, just like every other application on my PC.

This was just a suggestion to test an alternate connection as a means of ruling something out.  Not a suggestion that you permanently need to change it, or that you have done something wrong.
 
There have been many good suggestions made in good faith as responses to your plea for help.  Don't understand your resistance to trying each suggestion, and then responding with the result. 
 
You may not always know why the question was asked, but there are many cumulative years of experience here for the taking, and the post would get clogged up with details if every little thing was explained.

Anderton
 
provide a recipe to reproduce
 

That's everything in a nutshell right there!  The secret sauce for success! 

You've got to love complex software. Millions of bits and just 1 flipped the wrong way can take you down.

It did occur to me that one area where SONAR may be different from other DAWs is in sending the local control off MIDI message to prevent note doubling with controllers that have synth engines.