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  • EZDrummer v Superior Drummer
2012/11/28 11:22:38
konradh
Now that I have decided EZDrummer is awesome, the next question is how many of you think Superior Drummer is worth the additional prices (as opposed to using EZDrummer and adding a few kits)?
 
I see the specs and features on Toontrack.com, so really wouldn't ask you to take your time to describe the differences between the two.  I am more interested in what Superior Drummer features are important to you and make it worth the extra price.
 
Nothing on the Superior Drummer feature list really jumped out at me as something I couldn't live without, but maybe I am overlooking something important.
 
On a sort of related note, after listening to the drum kits that came with EZDrummer and the add-on kits online, I think if I added Nashville and Vintage, I could cover 95% of what I do.  The rock kits sounded good, too, but I think I have them covered with Session Drummer 3 (to which I have added an acoustic set and Andy Johns).
 
Thanks, guys.
 
Your friend, The Mighy Konrad
2012/11/28 11:38:13
Middleman
Superior :

- additional routing to get at individual elements such as mid and far ambient sounds. These room sounds provide much more variety in the tonality of your kit.

- more microphones i.e. inside and outside kick mics. Top and bottom mics for snare. This equates to more control of the levels and tonality of these kit parts.

- layered drums i.e. you can build your own custom drums

- Multiple Black Beauty options for snare. You can't get enough of these.

- More Snare and Kick options matching a variety of song types.

There are many more options but these are my top few favorites.
2012/11/28 12:39:02
Lynn
The MIDI loops that come with the Avatar kit in SD are some of the best and most human sounding loops I've ever heard.  They're very easy to build a song with.
2012/11/28 12:44:26
michaelhanson
Keep em coming, I am very interested myself.  I grabbed the lite version of Steven Slate Drums a few weeks ago at an incredible price and they sound really good.....but... I really like the ease of building song structures with EZD's.  Primarily being a songwriter, the ease of creativity means a lot to me.
2012/11/28 13:20:57
musec03
When I want the full studio drummer setup, and have the time to make good use of it... I use SD. When I want a quick drum track that sounds really good I use EZD ... the drum sounds are tight and all midi files work well with both. The user defined settings on SD are very comprehensive and allow a pretty good environment for the capable engineer to manage a thoroughly believable drum set. IMHO!
2012/11/28 14:54:34
Sidroe
Hey,Konradh. I have used nothing but SD2 for a couple of years now. The first library I bought was the Nashville Kit. It doesn't just do country. It covers a lot of pop and rock ground as well. I have the Avatar Kit, the Lost Studio Kits, the Classic, the Jazz, and the Latin Percussion. With just those I can do just about anything thrown at me. I don't do much metal and the kits I own cover everything else. I love the fact that SD2 loads the EZX librarys and gives you so many more options to take those kits to a higher level. The one thing I have noticed by looking at the individual drums sampled is there is a lot of the same snares from kit to kit. The room ambience is outstanding. Some of my favorite recordings were done in the Hit Factory and just to be able to turn up that room and hear it in my recordings is unbelievable! Just that to me is worth the price.
BTW, I see your posts on here quite a bit and wanted to say you along with a few others have been invaluable with your advice. Your tips have really been a lifesaver sometimes. Just wanted to say THANKS!
2012/11/28 15:23:53
Sidroe
One more quick comment. The Classic Kit actually gives you two different mic setups. One is the traditional every drum is miced. There is another optional four mic setup. Showing my age here but I can't tell you how many times I used that mic config, much less watched other producers use it in the old days. 1 mic on the kick, 1 mic on the snare, and two overheads aimed at picking up the entire kit. Great classic rock sound! I have not seen that feature in anyone else's librarys. Definitely worth the price!
2012/11/28 15:37:53
jb101
+1 to the classic and the 4mic setup..  And they recorded three different makes of kit, including Yamaha Recording.
 
Three kits x two mike set ups = lots of variety.
 
And I love concert toms..
 
2012/11/28 16:18:45
jamesyoyo
While a first class pain in the butt to work with, SD is terrific and sonically puts EZ to shame.
2012/11/28 16:28:59
konradh
Interesting thread, guys.  Many thanks.

And I appreciate the kind words, Sidroe!  You are now under the protection of The Mighty Konrad.
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