• SONAR
  • What's the deal with Sonar and octave values? (p.2)
2012/11/27 08:37:44
robert_e_bone
Here is a better link for this: http://www.cakewalk.com/D...;Req=Dialogs2.073.html

The only thing is that this is a global setting, when there may well be different methods in use for different plugins.

Bob Bone

2012/11/27 09:16:24
fwrend
This should clear things up lol

http://www.music.vt.edu/m...s/octaveregisters.html




2012/11/27 10:13:29
robert_e_bone
fwrend


This should clear things up lol

http://www.music.vt.edu/m...s/octaveregisters.html

Yeah - but they have the wrong expansion of MIDI.  They indicate it means Musical Instrument DEVICE Interface, when it really means Musical Instrument DIGITAL Interface.


I just LOVE quibbles for breakfast.


That is actually a quite nice explanation of the whole issue with octaves and such - thanks for providing it.


Bob Bone


2012/11/27 11:26:20
sharke
Bigdogs


You can find the Base Octave for Pitches setting in Preferences, Customisation, Display (not sure why it's there)
Simon

Aha, thanks. 
2012/11/27 11:28:31
sharke
Jeez...it's all very confusing isn't it. I'm still getting over that guitar music isn't played as written, after 25 years. 
2012/11/27 13:43:21
fwrend
robert_e_bone


fwrend


This should clear things up lol

http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/appendix/octaveregisters/octaveregisters.html

Yeah - but they have the wrong expansion of MIDI.  They indicate it means Musical Instrument DEVICE Interface, when it really means Musical Instrument DIGITAL Interface.


I just LOVE quibbles for breakfast.


That is actually a quite nice explanation of the whole issue with octaves and such - thanks for providing it.


Bob Bone
That's hilarious!  I didn't even notice - what's that say about our fine higher ed institutions???
 
This is actually a very well layed out explanation.  BTW - this person has a nice collection of native american flutes - just click on the "next" page.
 
http://www.flutopedia.com/octave_notation.htm
 
 
2012/11/27 14:16:23
brundlefly
Another thing you might encounter in connection with this... some synth manufacturers deliberately transpose bass instruments so that you can play their low notes on a 61-key (or smaller) controller. So they'll end up notated an octave higher than they sound; Dim Pro does this IIRC. But, of course, not all synths do this, so you may find that changing synths suddenly causes your bass part to sound too high. 

2012/11/27 14:29:36
sharke
brundlefly


Another thing you might encounter in connection with this... some synth manufacturers deliberately transpose bass instruments so that you can play their low notes on a 61-key (or smaller) controller. So they'll end up notated an octave higher than they sound; Dim Pro does this IIRC. But, of course, not all synths do this, so you may find that changing synths suddenly causes your bass part to sound too high. 

I actually noticed this recently. And then of course you have oscillators going at different octaves so who even knows what the "correct" pitch is on a synth sound? 
2012/11/27 16:51:20
swamptooth
and as an added conundrum all sfz synths have a baseoctave of -1 even though the default base in sonar is 0.
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