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  • Pops/clicks since going to Win7 64bit @ 2ms Latency (p.2)
2012/11/26 10:09:45
bobguitkillerleft
Win7 x64 demands modern,as in at least 1st gen. i7 intel cpu,and even then I wouldn't want anything older than Sandy Bridge,but that's just me
2012/11/26 10:44:55
Bristol_Jonesey
There's not a great deal to be gained from running at an RTL of 2ms anyway - you'd get more delay standing any more than a foot away from a guitar cab
2012/11/26 10:49:37
bitflipper
The only system I've ever seen handle 2ms latency with a big project was Cakewalk's demo machine, with 16GB RAM, 8 cores and SSDs. In another 10 years we probably won't even be talking about latency anymore, but for now 2ms is really pushing the limits of all but the fastest computers for anything but pure-audio projects. With high-latency mastering plugins inserted, it's a physical impossibility.

The good news is you probably don't need 2ms latency. Think about how fast that is: 2ms is less time than it takes for sound to get from your monitors to your ears! Even drummers' sense of timing isn't that precise, let alone singers and guitarists. I think you'll find that a latency setting of 5.8ms for tracking will be just fine. When you start mixing and putting in effects, bump it up as high as you need, as there is no downside to long latencies when mixing.
2012/11/26 11:59:48
moffdnb
Cool!.  Thanks to all for your input.  I feel better now in the 64bit world.  ;>
2012/11/26 13:02:45
thearclight
The only spikes on my systems (showing by LatMon...btw...hx for the tipp for that little "must have" tools) are the USB port Driver from my mainboard...
After putting all USB to my seperated PCIx 1x USB/Firewire Card...no peaks, no itchings...;)

...but I have to say, that I did´nt got problems with X2, running with 64 - 128 samples, even with my D16Group LUSH101 (great synth) in heavy use with other VST´s ...no crackles.
2012/11/26 14:24:14
Freddie H
moffdnb


Hi guys,

I posted this in an earlier thread by someone else so not too hijack it, I post again here.   I don't get much juice from running at 2ms latency.  Hoping someone might have some advice.

I've just run DPC and have no spikes at all.  Latency hovers between 115 and 130.  All drivers updated and all BIOS options (On-board Audio, Controllers, Lan) disabled.  Only issue I had going to 64bit was Nvidia drivers.  Had to use an older driver to avoid BSOD in 64bit.  Studio PC only.  Not for any other use.  Still pops with 2ms Latency????   (Just 6 audio tracks with FX  with 1 softsynth running - no issue on XP32bit)  


Win 7 64bit, Intel 2.66ghz Dualcore, Asus P5k, 8gb ram, Nvidia Geforce 7300, EMU 0404 ASIO, Sata OS HDD & Sata Audio HDD.
What make you think it should work in 2ms?
I see this alot over the internet in forums that you get clicks and pops in use of extreme low settings of latency. Of course it doesn't work!
I can't run large project in my studio either in 2ms and I don't want or need to. 

Use 512-1024 (8 to 16ms) that is the normal setting in any DAW any audio interface.  I see you have and use EMU 0404 ASIO. You have already zero latency monitoring in the control panel so what do you need the DAW to perfrom in 2ms for? You can already record vocals in zero latency.
Are you telling us that you can't play on  the VST synths in 8ms-14ms? That is even faster then the disk can even stream the files in example Kontakt or Omnisphere, if you don't use a SSD disk.
 
Think about it my friend!
2012/11/26 15:47:34
moffdnb
@ Freddie.  I have and am (now a more enlightened) happy camper.  ;>
2012/11/27 09:15:09
Freddie H
moffdnb


@ Freddie.  I have and am (now a more enlightened) happy camper.  ;>


Great!
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