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  • X2: V-Vocal clips don't play back during record?
2012/09/22 21:01:35
CoteRotie
I had some background vocals tuned with V-Vocal.  During recording of the main vocal, the V-Vocal clipped parts of the background vocal would not play.  Has anyone else noticed this behavior?  If I bounced to clip it was OK, so there's a workaround, but I never had to do that before.
 
I was never one of those who had any problems leaving V-Vocal clips in place, I never had to bounce immediately until X2.
 
Anyone else noticing different behavior?
 
John
2012/09/23 05:36:12
Bristol_Jonesey
No, but I'll be watching this thread like a hawk as I use V-Vocal on nearly every project
2012/09/23 12:05:56
CoteRotie
I'm having some other weird behavior with V-Vocal (does not automatically mute the underlying clip), so maybe I have a corrupt download/install.  If nobody else sees this I'll re-download and install to see if it persists.

John
2012/11/25 13:25:04
Studious
Just installed X2 recently and experienced a V-Vocal bug playing back the sample project.  All the V-Vocal clips either do not play at all, or they play way out of pitch (chipmunk).

When there is no sound, the V-Vocal editor is empty (no waveform).
When it's chipmunk, everything looks normal.
2012/11/25 14:07:03
CoteRotie
Studious


Just installed X2 recently and experienced a V-Vocal bug playing back the sample project.  All the V-Vocal clips either do not play at all, or they play way out of pitch (chipmunk).

When there is no sound, the V-Vocal editor is empty (no waveform).
When it's chipmunk, everything looks normal.

Make sure you haven't inadvertently muted the track (or solo'd another track) before you create the V-Vocal clip.  Also, make sure you change the formant control to zero to avoid the chipmunk.  If both of these are OK, maybe you are seeing a different issue.  

In the case of the particular project I originally referenced the V-Vocal clip showed the waveform, but would not play.  This was an older project opened in X2.  I haven't seen this behavior in a project created from scratch in X2, or even in other older projects.

What I have seen recently is a case where V-Vocal didn't mute the underlying clip in a lane, and I could hear the underlying clip as well as the tuned clip-  THEN, when I muted the underlying clip manually the tuned clip became extremely distorted and I could find no way to make it better (except starting over with Melodyne.)  Have not been able to reproduce in any other project, but have pretty much given up on V-Vocal even for small changes in favor of Melodyne.  I'll give it a try again after the next update.

John
2012/11/26 10:46:31
dxp
Yes. I have had the exact same problem John. I tried all the obvious things, even restarted SONAR to see if that helped. It did not. Repeatable every time.
2012/11/26 15:30:14
whack
Ive often got that problem. Its been stated numerous times and I agree, vvocal although useful in small increments it is really buggy and will crash your project at some stage. Id say if you use pitch correction a lot, splash out for one of the better ones.

Cian
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