Is it me or does V Vocal make the vocal sound as if it's going through a very subtle phaser, even before any correction has taken place?
 
I have Melodyne also and this is totally transparent, yet V Vocal, although quite a nice bit of kit, colours the sound.
 
Anybody else found this? Listen to the upper Khz of the vocal, they sound suppressed yet fluid just like a phaser effect, bypass V Vocal and you're back to normal.
 
Bizarre!

Be sure to turn Pitch Follow to 0.  It defaults to 100.

And make sure you're only working with clean, short clips

Lynn


Be sure to turn Pitch Follow to 0.  It defaults to 100.

Does that make a difference then even before any correction has taken place? It's such a wierd thing and so hard to explain other than saying  - as soon as V Vocal is enabled on a track it sounds 'processed'.
 
I'll try the pitch follow if you think that will help :-)

Absolutely not.I use V-Vocal on mono bass and sax tracks too for time and noise corrections and it's a powerful weapon!!Best.

Yeah, the phased sound is so annoying. I have trouble stopping it happening almost all the time. I have gone back to using autotune as it is transparent and highly effective. I only use v-vocal now on single notes for vocals because of the phasing issue. Such a shame.

It also depends on subtlety. 
I've not been able to move vocals more than a full tone or so without some artifacts.
Still very useful for tweaks.

Never use it for vocals as I can always hear artifacts after even subtle / minor adjustments - if I have to I have melodyne, but the most effective way I have found is to tell the singer to do it again and do it until they get it right!!!!!!! 

I do hear great things about Melodyne so it must be good.
Just "redo the vox" is easier said than done many days or weeks after the take
 unless you are one of those pros that meticulously logs every setup and the singer is fine with it.

Glenn
Melodyne is very good but even so moderation is the keyword I think.
I understand what you say about takes that were done some time ago - I was talking really about work we do on our own material in the studio, where a retake, even sometime later, is not really any issue at all. 
I used to melodyne / autotune a lot of stuff a while back, but I think I prefer now to just leave it "as is" even with minor imperfections as it sounds more natural to me in some ways. 

Nigel