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  • Its not very often I rant but... (X2)
2012/11/23 08:36:02
Rasure
I thought cakewalk would have learnt from the X1 experience. Its becoming increasingly hard work to get things done quickly in X2. These are just some of the random issues I experience on a daily basis in X2 and to be honest Im losing my patience!
 
  • Crashes when auditioning loops from the browser
  • Crashes when setting loop points during playback
  • Freezing then unfreezing softsynth sometimes resets Pro channel settings, you wouldn't know to look at them, but you can hear it.
  • Inserting softsynths doesn't always load the one you select, using replace synth fixes this
  • Pro channel FX chains randomly loses their learnt knob functions - Reloading the FX chain fixes this until the next time it happens
  • Now time marker disappears after editing in PRV
  • Pro channel modules become unresponsive, in other words they are still engaged whether they are turned on or off
  • General graphics oddities
2012/11/23 08:55:36
gswitz
interesting. I haven't personally experienced any of these problems, except graphics oddity of having to move the mouse over the beginning of a clip to see the clip muted icon after muting the clip with the mute tool.
2012/11/23 09:45:45
sharke
I have experienced crashes when auditioning loops, but not for a while. 
2012/11/23 11:02:36
the wildman
Ive had crashes galore with X2
Had to give up on my Alphatrack control surface as it just crashed the pc all the time.
Various other probs include:
Randomly, No sound entering the track input, press a few buttons on/off then it comes through.

Press rec or solo can cause a crash

X1 was ok for me but although i like x2 for its take lanes and volume automation lanes, i am getting fed up with the crashes.

2012/11/23 11:30:32
gswitz
My alphatrack works fine. I'm not having trouble with crashes. I get dropouts when my processor can't keep up, but that's expected. Disabling FX on tracks I'm not using helps with this. By passing FX during recording removes the problem entirely. My PC is a little week. I use a 6 year old laptop with a dual core.
2012/11/23 11:39:20
the wildman
Thats weird.
Evryone seems to be having different problems with X2, but one thing is for sure, there ae lots of issues it seems.
My alphatrack worked ok right up to X1. It was great.
But X2, no way could i get it to play ball.
It would work fine, but then sure as anything you would know that it would crash before you could save anything, everytime.
Didn't have to use it, it just had to be plugged into the pc.
 
2012/11/23 12:22:15
Keni
Yeah....

Slowdowns for sure...

I have many graphics oddities here as well.... and it's not the machine as X1 is running cleaner and 8.5.3 runs even better...

For me the slowdown is in all the losses... It's nice to get new things but not when the loss outweighs the gains (for me)...

Lanes are horrible for me. The lack of range to the zoom control is making editing very difficult. I don't have great eyes anymore. when loop recording, they force me to constantly re-fill/size the screen as the new takes are off-screen. Changing from track to take requires way too many extra clicks and is needed constantly due to how little screen real estate is left with all the X-waste... As talked about when X1 came out. The new UI occupies far more space for fewer controls and tracks... Now Lanes takes that a big step further down that path... They leave the "track" area in the clips pane empty/wasted and can't be made small enough to fit much on the screen... Comping a track with many lanes has become a very difficult chore. Moving clips between Lanes and/or other tracks? <sigh>... I could rant on as the Lanes are not a welcome item in my life. A major step backwards so that my mute/solo buttons can be bigger? Bad trade!

The many gfx oddities are difficult as well. It took me many days to get used to the lack of visual change when muting/unmuting clips. I press the appropriate control and nothing changes until the mouse moves off hovering on the clip... Extreme jitter when clips are dragged/copied... PC modules disappearing/re-appearing... Meters in TV not working for higher numbered tracks (confirmed and related to hidden/archived tracks)...

Why does Audiosnap continue to operate even after all such attempts have been disabled? I try AS, give up and undo all the work... when I next open the song, I get the AS messages regarding "Processing Audio"...

If only they would release the PC modules as VST so that I could go back to 8.5.3 and return to a more comfortable work environment (for me)... I have no benefits directly related to the X changes other than the PC modules... There are a few more keyboard commands which would just as easily been added to 8.5.3 and what else? Everything else is about the new gui which does not help me... I use some of the new tools because I'm forced to find ways to use X1 (such as screensets)...

I was looking forward to the new auto-zoom and and smart snap only to find that they get more in my way than not so they remain disabled...

I could go on...

Keni

2012/11/23 12:23:58
Rooftree
I've been really happy with X2. It hasn't crashed at all on me. The only problems I've experienced are various graphics glitches and FX bins setting themselves to bypass mode.
2012/11/23 17:00:02
Bristol_Jonesey
The only issue raised by the OP that I see regularly are the graphics issues - there's some weird stuff going on, certainly in the prv, and to a lesser extent, Track view.

I did have my first crash since the quick fix last night, but I'm pretty sure it was to do with a less than optimal Pentagon Installation
2012/11/23 17:07:23
gswitz
Today, in full screen mode in console view showing all the pro channels, it looked like I had a bunch of the same effect in the PC until I scrolled it up and down. For a second I panicked thinking I'd messed up and bounced a bunch of tracks that way, but all was well. Video anomaly. Scrolling the PC repainted the dirty section of the screen.
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