ORIGINAL: ed97643

Sounds good. To second what Larry said, do consider shopping for a condenser down the line. There are no "rules", but it's pretty widely accepted that condensers are typical first choices (over dynamics) for main vocal tracks. You can get deals these days, especially in the second hand market.

yeah I was kinda thinking this would be one of the main suggestions...I may try moving the mic around the room a bit more..ive tried moving soft fabric furniture in the corners....


sorry if this isnt the correct forum for this...its just that ive liked what ive read in here so far

ORIGINAL: Mr. torture

Phantom power has absolutely no negative effect on a dynamic mic.

My concern was more for the fact he was unaware that Phantom power is not used on dynamic mic's. He really should be at a home recording forum reading and learning the basics of recording.

harrumph harrumph

Really, if you aren't getting good levels you need to turn up the headphone monitors. Or get more comfortable "performing" your singing.

Another trick is to face your real monitors, turn them down and sing with them.

A couple of things to check - make sure the bass roll off isn't on for the mic (don't know if it has it ..). Check to make sure the EQ is off on the mixer, then try adding some bass. ANd I hate to mention this, but are you singing into the front/top right spot of the mic? Just checking. Like I said, if you aren't getting volume you either aren't singing at a speaking voice volume or you've got something hooked up wrong. I doubt if the behringer has a great preamp, but it ought to work.

Finally, maybe your voice just doesn't work with the mic. It ought not be as bad as you say, but sometimes ...

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An old carpenters trick...sing up close and parallel to the window, combine this with the proximity effect (sing touching the mic grill (get rid of the pop screen for a dynamic mic) and you will at least thicken the voice.
Of course you can further thicken the vocal track by cloning the vox track and using pitch/shift FX by Cakewalk. try a 0.2 setting and mix in to taste.

Mick

Karen (RIP) used a slightly damaged (in a good way) U87 which is somewhat different to the e835

HI kcearl,

I would recommend you buy an MXL condensor mic. It is extremely cheap and a good condensor mic for starters. I have used it with fairly good results. Which sound card are you using? That might explain why you're getting the results that you are getting

When I need to boost low mids/mids to add more detail I use cardboard. I grab a piece of cardboard and make a half-moon around the mic to use the early reflections. Kind of like a poor man's version of a tiled room. You have to play with it a little but it can help band-aid other problems. Kind of like singing into a can, but a really big can. Kind of a hastle to hold when you're singing and running a board though!

ORIGINAL: kcearl
I maybe a bit of a newb but ive managed to get bass, rythm, lead, keyboard and drums down..

Bully for you, then why need our help with something simple like recording you own voice?

I was using the phantom power as I wasnt really getting any oomph from the preamps in gear box or pod farm..

And I stand by my comments..

No offense kcearl, but there are a ton of home recording forums on the net where your questions have been answered a million times. This is a specific forum for Sonar and really should be used for issues pertaining to the program and related software / hardware.

I am just trying to assist you in a way where you will receive answers that will better help you, I meant no disrespect.

ive been using the toneport as my soundcard..but Im going to check out a condenser mic...ive seen a few threads on some pretty food value ones...

ORIGINAL: Mr. torture

ORIGINAL: kcearl
I maybe a bit of a newb but ive managed to get bass, rythm, lead, keyboard and drums down..

Bully for you, then why need our help with something simple like recording you own voice?

I was using the phantom power as I wasnt really getting any oomph from the preamps in gear box or pod farm..

And I stand by my comments..

No offense kcearl, but there are a ton of home recording forums on the net where your questions have been answered a million times. This is a specific forum for Sonar and really should be used for issues pertaining to the program and related software / hardware.

I am just trying to assist you in a way where you will receive answers that will better help you, I meant no disrespect.

No disrespect taken...what I meant was I was managing up to now


you are right its a sonar forum...at least i was using sonar though :)

I tried the phantom power because I though it may boost the signal...in retrospect pretty stupid but ive never recorded vocals before, in fact this is my first time using live instruments, hence my joy at recording them so easily/well, ive only ever used samples and midi instruments up till now..

Im a member of a home recording site...Ill keep rookie questions for there I just kinda prefer the standard of knowledge here..

like I said no offense, its all good advice..thanks everyone

thanks AT & Mick...after years of thinking a may be the next pavarotti the truth is starting to sink in...the mic may be part of it but i think finding my own style may be it as well...i want to do this on my own so i better start learning my limits when writing my own material...the jeff buckley impersonations will be saved for the shower lol

Ill try some different techniques today


Ive fashioned a screen Ron, just got to find a way to attach it...the room is large for an apartment and pretty stark...no curtains or much furniture..the wife may start missing the duvet at night ;)

i really think it may be me rather than the equipment now im thinking about it...plenty here have used the line 6 plug ins with good affect..it must be sonars fault!!! haha

again thanks for the advice