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2009/04/21 08:39:21
papa2004
Im using a sennheiser e835 and a pop screen..


A pop screen with that mic doesn't make sense. The 835 might work well for "live" performances and even as an instrument amp mic in a studio but it isn't a good vocal mic for use in a studio, especially with a pop screen because then the proximity effect really kicks in...
2009/04/21 09:03:54
strikinglyhandsome1

ORIGINAL: Ron Vogel

When I need to boost low mids/mids to add more detail I use cardboard. I grab a piece of cardboard and make a half-moon around the mic to use the early reflections. Kind of like a poor man's version of a tiled room. You have to play with it a little but it can help band-aid other problems. Kind of like singing into a can, but a really big can. Kind of a hastle to hold when you're singing and running a board though!



The new Roland/Sonar Vocal Booth VS-800

2009/04/21 09:06:48
Kalle Rantaaho
ORIGINAL: kcearl

the mic may be part of it but i think finding my own style may be it as well...i want to do this on my own so i better start learning my limits when writing my own material...the jeff buckley impersonations will be saved for the shower lol


You obviously have what it takes to develop, because you so quickly adapted this attitude.
Especially with young men, often/usually the biggest obstacle in the way of creating good vocal stuff is a false idea of ones personal character as a singer. Some never accept the fact that their voice isn't ever going to sound like Bruce Dickinson (or whatever they like), and waste precious years fighting the windmills instead of creating something that becomes them.

As a youngster I damaged my vocal chords with wrong techniques and too long training sessions. I still haven't gotten my falsetto back (after 35 years), but I'm reasonably happy with my expressive, semi-rockish baritone.
2009/04/21 09:16:09
papa2004
Perhaps the most useless response ever posted in these forums...

ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1


ORIGINAL: Ron Vogel

When I need to boost low mids/mids to add more detail I use cardboard. I grab a piece of cardboard and make a half-moon around the mic to use the early reflections. Kind of like a poor man's version of a tiled room. You have to play with it a little but it can help band-aid other problems. Kind of like singing into a can, but a really big can. Kind of a hastle to hold when you're singing and running a board though!



The new Roland/Sonar Vocal Booth VS-800



2009/04/21 09:20:17
strikinglyhandsome1
Thanks.
2009/04/21 11:38:58
papa2004
You're welcome...
2009/04/21 11:50:00
donhearl
Actually, the e835 is a nice microphone and I don't think you should have any problems with the MIC itself. It's a good mic. The issue may be with gain staging and vocal technique. Use any proximity effect (which will be minimal) to your advantage.

Many great vox are recorded with handheld dynamic mics. I just finished a session the other night where the only thing for the track that worked was a beat up Beta 58.

regards,

2009/04/21 14:40:04
kcearl

ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1


ORIGINAL: Ron Vogel

When I need to boost low mids/mids to add more detail I use cardboard. I grab a piece of cardboard and make a half-moon around the mic to use the early reflections. Kind of like a poor man's version of a tiled room. You have to play with it a little but it can help band-aid other problems. Kind of like singing into a can, but a really big can. Kind of a hastle to hold when you're singing and running a board though!



The new Roland/Sonar Vocal Booth VS-800





are you selling these?
2009/04/21 14:46:05
musicroom
Hey Kcearl,

Some good tips here and some impatience coming from a few. But recording is an art no matter how much technology changes. And - if I recall - my first vox take that I recorded was disappointing. Follow the these tips, learn from other forums and or books - and - experiment. Who knows, in just a short time you may discover a great method that not only works for you - but that you can help others with on this forum.

Here is a link to the techniques forum that has some interesting vox discussion.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1697247


2009/04/21 14:48:20
musicroom
Goofy and useless unless your were going for a laugh. If that was the case - you win. I laughed. :)
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