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  • A Rant About Take Lanes (p.3)
2012/11/17 13:44:29
Keni
carl


Bring back Layers.
Lanes are one step forward, two steps back.


Yeah! Make that three steps back! <sigh>...

Keni

2012/11/17 14:02:04
Beepster
Keni... Couldn't you just use X1 to track and edit then open the project in X2 to get at the new tools for mixing and effects?

Another feature I'd like to see added (and maybe it's already there but I haven't seen it) is something from my old version of Nuendo. In Nuendo if you had overlapping takes in a track you could right click on the wave and it would give you a list of everything underneath it. The you could select the clip you wanted and it would bring it to the top making it active for editing. Very handy feature. It also automatically muted the other stuff so you didn't have to constantly be muting/unmuting however you could force it to unmute the other clips if needed.

There was another really important feature I had in my head pertaining to lanes but someone distracted me in the house here and derailed my thought process. Darn... it was a good one too.
2012/11/18 10:59:41
listen
I like them better than layers - BUT - should be able to make the Take Lane a lane if you want.   

Makes it easier to do many overdubs...
2012/11/18 11:49:50
FastBikerBoy
I think take lanes are a work in progress. Compared to layers there's plenty of pros (for me) and a few cons. Main cons being the arbitary height restrictions, lack of an automatic break open and maximise 'all-in-one' button.

Pros are the easier to use controls, the ability to name takes, no more random mixing up of lanes (aka the rebuild function), but being able to move them into an order that I want far easier, oh and the text notes field is a great feature too.

Ref 'rebuild' - it would be great to have a way of reordering the lanes into a user defined order with options such as ordered by some sort of rating system, capture order, and alphabetical to name three. Please not the old rebuild function though, I never did get what that was about.

I'm sure they'll develop as time goes on.
2012/11/18 11:52:33
Beepster
You can reorder the lanes? How do you do that? That's one of my improvement wishes but if it's already there... bonus. Cheers.
2012/11/18 12:16:45
FastBikerBoy
Same way as you do tracks. Click in the lane header area, somewhere beneath the solo/mute buttons will do and then click and drag.
2012/11/18 12:22:28
Beepster
hmm... I thought I had tried that to no avail. I'll have to take another look. Maybe it's that weird hotspot issue screwing me up again. Thanks, Karl.
2012/11/18 12:35:26
FastBikerBoy
Possibly, it is very similar to the track method and I know you are having issues with that. What graphics card do you use?

Mine's nothing special - an ATi 5450 which while adequate is hardly cutting edge.
2012/11/18 12:46:11
Beepster
I'd have to dig out the box to get the model number but it's a cheapo Gigabyte (NVIDIA) card I snagged from NewEgg for about $25. It seems to work fine for most stuff including my old CoD games so IDK... 

Basically at this point the only place where I can hook in to drag tracks around is a thin line of pixels in the gray area beside/ in between the top row of buttons (arm, solo, mute...) and the bottom row (automation buttons). On my screen it essentially only gives me about a millimeter where the cursor changes to the drag cursor. It works but it's a little annoying.
2012/11/18 12:52:16
chilldanny
Take Lanes a work in progress - fair enough.
But to not have any option to use Layers as many would prefer, is just, well, rude.

Automation Lanes on the other hand, superb and welcome addition.

I guess 1 out of 2 aint bad ;)
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