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  • A Rant About Take Lanes (p.9)
2012/11/22 15:29:52
Keni
FastBikerBoy


mike_mccue


Anyone notice a trend?

It seems like the folks who state that they were confused by Layers seem to prefer having less versatility and functionality in Take Lanes.






It all makes sense.


Personally, I wasn't confused by layers (apart from the rebuild function). You'll find several videos on my YouTube page explaining how to use and comp with them but I do prefer take lanes.

I'm intrigued by this "less versatility and functionality" though, unless I'm missing something they have lost...........

  1. Ability to fully resize/shrink them
  2. The rebuild function
  3. Er...... you'll have to help me out here......


They have gained

  1. Improved Solo mute buttons
  2. Ability to display different data types in each take ie. clips in one transients in another or inline PRV and clips
  3. Ability to drag re-order
  4. Ability to rename a take
  5. Ability to include notes about a take.
  6. Ability to record into a chosen lane

While I completely agree that there is room for improvement in exactly the same way there was room for improvement with layers I don't see the loss of function or versatility. They've gained more than they've lost. 

Perhaps I could refer you to one of the X2 tuition videos to help you get up to speed with the workflow changes?


Hi Karl...

Tho I agree with much of what you've said in this thread, there are always items that can be seen many ways...

I for one don't actually understand what there is to be confused about with either paradigm.... But for me it's all about efficient workflow. Yes, layers had a few problems, but they were far less imposing in my work. I would easily trade feature sets....

As to your pro/con listing.... A rose by any other name...

Some items you credit to Lanes were with us in Layers as well... I could re-order the layers... Yes with a few more clicks/keystrokes, but I need that far less than my constant demand for proper screen real estate use...

Buttons aren't improved... They're simply larger which forced another problem. To keep them visible, the track height could not be as small... Bad trade for me. I use clip mutes most of the time and hardly ever use/need the layer/lane buttons...

These are all matters of screen use and the loss of zoom abilities (far too limited a range of small/large in 2 dimensions) is far more of an issue....

As to some of the new toolset for lanes? I can see some reason(s) for recording directly to a specific lane, this doesn't really do much for me as it was simple enuf to move the clips. But now I can't see the clips I wish to edit as well as I could before... Again the zoom issues...

And the "wasted space" of the track while lanes are displayed? Sure I can think of a reason... So that the envelopes can be seen at the same time? But again I was better off with the envelopes drawn over the entire track including it's layers.... That worked fine for me as it allowed me to see a maximum in a minimum amount of space...

Naming? Yes, handy but not important enuf a trade... Notepad? Again. A nice extra tool, but not worth the workflow loss...

Displaying data types? I wouldn't need this if they'd get rid of the edit filter! ;-)

So... again I find myself in the position of "why can't we have both?" This has always been my stance. Come up with something new and add it don't replace something that others already like. Bloated software? Not really in a few ways.... As computer speeds, memory and storage have become abundant and inexpensive, do I really care if the software is a big file? ...and then it doesn't really have to be as features culd be built so that they are modular and a user could add/remove features by their personal needs/desire....

I'm keeping the faith that the Bakers will come up with fixes for many of these issues.... I hope soon. I feel badly because previous work already told me I wouldn't like lanes and it's been proven so very quickly.... I was hoping I was wrong....

If they sold the ProChannel modules as separate VST plugins, I would very likely go back to 8.5.3..............

Keni

2012/11/22 15:32:35
Keni
FastBikerBoy


mike_mccue


Hi Carl,

Thanks for providing some proof to support my thesis.


best regards,
mike


No worries I'm always happy to help although quite how increased functions equals less functionality is a little beyond me, but then again I'm not quite as clever as you.

What is it you can't do in lanes that you can in layers? Perhaps I can help you even more.


Adding functions that aren't used as much as the lost abilites.... Easy to understand. X1 and X2 have done a lot of this to my personal workflow...

Keni

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