• SONAR
  • I’m seriously suggesting this! (p.2)
2012/11/20 17:48:10
Bub
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2012/11/20 17:57:56
cornieleous
GlennP
 
So what to do? My own business motto comes to mind.
        Q. How do you sell somebody something? 
        A. Find out what they want and sell it to them!
I certainly understand your sentiment, but keep in mind that X1/2 have pleased many (I am not one of those but I respect what it is to others).  Many users use a subset pf features available in the program and were always confused/turned off by the default mess that was Sonar interface in 8.5.3 and before, and perhaps never realized what a streamlined powerhouse it could become when customized. They simply wanted something very simplified for basic tracking, and who can blame them? Users with basic needs will also be much more willing to accept the mass of bugs that Sonar has had the last few rollouts (most DAWs are this way in this over competitive market) since if you don't use features like layers, etc. you won't find the biggest problems.
 
Bottom line is Cakewalk did listen to their market and "cleaned up" the interface. I think they destroyed it personally - I can still run circles around slow X1/2 with my custom menus and custom toolbars from Sonar 8.5.3, or using the custom mouse settings (smart tool), browser, tabview(multidock), layers(lanes), synth rack controls (FX chains almost) etc. that ALL were already there before X1 in one form or another.
 
The X series and Skylight is so far a rebranding and rebuild of old features with a couple minor new ones. It IS arguably easier to use without any effort out of the box. Its friendlier. More is defined for you and locked in place. Its sexier and packed with whiz bang plugins like Broverb and Pro this and Pro that. Like it or not, its the future for Cakewalk - its what the market wanted. People are digging it, and if it works for them then good for them and Cakewalk.
 
I can agree that I would like a dialog for those of us who feel the change of approach at Cakewalk is not the right one, but I see Cakewalk increasing fast rollouts with half baked features and more plugins because its what people want. it just kind of is what it is and as long as the core majority is happy all I can do is deal with it. 
2012/11/20 18:00:47
piangio
Any frustration here. My 2nd album (as engineer) after X2 upgrade finished without any particular problem on win7 64bit. Due to the stability was necessary to perform a clean installation. Not yet perfect but very stable imho.
2012/11/20 18:17:38
jb101
Bub


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He was quite nice, considering.
 
You made it clear in the other thread that you like to be as rude/dismissive as possible, but don't want people to reply.
 
This you call avoiding "Tit for tat".
 
It's what us grown ups called taking responsibility for our actions.
 
Or conversation.
 
You feel the need to reply with puerile jibes, and say "I don't want to play anymore".
 
Fair enough, your choice, Blub      Boo hoo hoo.
 
You can block jb101 now, or bj101 as you so cleverly renamed me.  The fact that you went to the effort of changing my name throughout the quote says a lot about you..
 
I preferred your old avatar, it was so much more suitable.
 
I hope your music making experience improves soon.
2012/11/20 20:01:13
gswitz
The programmers I know want a more competent user base so they can focus on making good software. Making software idiot proof is a drag. Making it work flawlessly with every interface and every OS is a hassle. Making it make awesome music would be pretty cool, if I was developer.

And I'm sure my manager would press me for testing and try to protect the paying user base. And the testing team would try to find bugs but testers tend to be the least invested in the development chain.

Since you feel passionately, maybe you could write a good song about it to convince us to follow you. Maybe 'Get up Stand up'. :-)
2012/11/20 22:15:10
robert_e_bone
piangio


Any frustration here. My 2nd album (as engineer) after X2 upgrade finished without any particular problem on win7 64bit. Due to the stability was necessary to perform a clean installation. Not yet perfect but very stable imho.

I am LOVING that music you posted!


Very nice.


Bob Bone
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