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  • Kontakt 5 Player in Sonar - Outputs
2012/11/18 17:45:46
konradh
I have the Kontakt 5 free player which I use for Vir2 Acoustic Legends HD and Electr6ity.  No problem there.
 
I recently downloaded some free content from NI for the Kontakt 5 player.  There are a couple of good drum kits included.
 
Question: How do I assign various drums in a kit to different outpus?  I know how to do this with Session Drummer 3, but not with Kontakt.  For example, I want the kick, snare, and hi-hat on different audio tracks.  I could open multiple instances of Kontkt, but there must be a better way.
 
Thanks.
2012/11/18 18:15:47
kevo
konradh


I have the Kontakt 5 free player which I use for Vir2 Acoustic Legends HD and Electr6ity.  No problem there.
 
I recently downloaded some free content from NI for the Kontakt 5 player.  There are a couple of good drum kits included.
 
Question: How do I assign various drums in a kit to different outpus?  I know how to do this with Session Drummer 3, but not with Kontakt.  For example, I want the kick, snare, and hi-hat on different audio tracks.  I could open multiple instances of Kontkt, but there must be a better way.
 
Thanks.

Pretty much the same way as Session Drummer.
In the console/mixer view of kontakt at the bottom of each instrument channel you can select the output for each instrument.
 
2012/11/18 18:37:04
konradh
Thanks, kevo, but how does one get to the mixer/console view in the free player?  I do not see that.
2012/11/18 22:55:53
konradh
Thoughts anyone?  I can click the Output icon in the player and see something like a mixer/console view but 1-I see no way to assign various drum notes/sounds to the various outputs and 2-I do not see how the outputs relate to various Sonar audio tracks.
2012/11/19 00:30:00
kevo
Let me check and see when I get in the studio. 
 
2012/11/19 01:39:11
kevo
Well Konrad,
I figured out how to route the different drums to different channels in kontakt 5. Unfortunately it is not a process that I am capable of creating step by step instructions.  It is certainly not as simple and straight forward as SSD3.

Hopefully someone who is more familiar with kontact, and will know an easier way will show up.

I apologize as I thought the outputs could simply be selected in the console view.

Since I stuck my foot in it, I'll keep checking to see if there is an easier way than how I did it.

Hopefully I can find a video or tutorial and post a link.

2012/11/19 02:01:25
kevo
2012/11/19 11:11:00
konradh
kevo, Thanks for all the help, bro.  I will watch the videos and also see if the NI forum--not nearly as responsive as this one!--has any ideas.

I can work around with different instances, if needed, but want to figure this out before I sink major dollars into the Abbey Road drum collection.

I am one of those people who is never satisfied with the kick, bass, and snare (though snare is less of a problem).  I probably spend more time on the kick drum and bass guitar selection, EQ, and mix than on everything else combined!  And, as you know, nothing screws up a mix faster than getting those wrong.
 
On thing I do like in Kontakt:  For the free drums, anyway, there is an attack control—don't know if that is in the Abbey Road set.  I have another thread on this forum about making the kick push instead of hit, and the smallest possible movement on the kick drum attack knob in Kontakt works wonders.  The kick still has an attack but it is not hard.  I like a good thump without sounding like the speakers are clicking or popping.
2012/11/19 12:35:32
konradh
NI Forum Moderator's answer:
You can configure the Outputs section of Kontakt to support multiple outputs (see your manual for details on how this works).

But as far as different libraries, it depends which libraries and how they are set up. With some libraries, multi-outputs are designed to be accessible from the Performance View (the panel where you can adjust various things about the instrument). If you are working with a library that doesn't have this available in Performance View, you won't be able to do this in Kontakt Player -- you would need the full version of Kontakt to do it.

Konrad's reply:
Thanks for replying. With the drum kits included with the free content for Kontakt 5, I do not see any way to route the individual drum sounds on the panel I assume is the performance panel: the one with attack, articulation, etc.

From this I assume it is not possible to route the individual sounds to various tracks in Sonar.
Do you know if this function is available in the Abbey Road collection sold by NI and compatible with the free player?
Thanks.
2012/11/19 14:01:00
sharke
If it's a Native Instruments drum kit, I would be very surprised if it didn't have multi-out functionality, even if it is free. In their Abbey Road series, the output selectors are always in the Mixer. However, the exact location varies. In the "Drums" series (70's Drums, 80's Drums etc) the output selectors for each drum are right below the channel faders. They are set to "default" by default. In the "Drummer" series, however, the output selectors are in the FX chain area, under "settings." 

Do you have a link to the free drum kit? I'm always up for some more free content, and I will take a look at it to see if I can't work it out. 
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