FYI  Cubase 7 is to be released Dec 5th. I looked at the features plus yamaha's new production io ethernet based and expandable console console integration and Daw control . if it works as advertised it will blow everything that exists now away.This even has a special ASIO guard to prevent dropouts. I think I will be moving on. No offence to CW or current users. I was  there once was. But no one is listening any more to the users just too many bugs still in X2. It can do all kinds of fancy looping, virtual instruments but cannot track a simple 24 track session without multiple cracks pops latency and dropouts .. My time and my clients time are far too valuable to wait for X 20. It really will take that long until someone gets it and fixes the code from the ground up.I See other loyal cake walkers sniffing out other Daw sites so I am afraid I am not the only one. I'm glad I own no stock in this company. I don't think I could sleep knowing my money was in a very leaky boat with impaired deck officers.  Maybe you really should bake cakes , because code writing  just is not  working for you. My only loyalty from this point on is to my clients and myself.Hard earned cash should buy solutions and not admission to Daw Hell.
Please remove from forum. I do thank the kind helpful members for help over the years. I do however believe now this company in beyond help.

Bye then.

I'm 100% sure your issues can be fixed but, so long, and thanks for all the fish.

As with everything "the grass is Always greener on the other side" . I just hope you're not looking at weeds instead of grass.

Good luck with cubase.

Hey see you Annie. Not sure about the crackles etc coz I'm working on 24+ track stuff now on a reasonably outdated quad core and have no pops etc but I can however certainly understand your frustration with the lack of surface integration and support etc. Will have a look at the Yamaha offerings...wasn't aware of them as you describe but not sure I could jump to Cubase.

Anyway, you'll be missed so hope it all goes well and also hope you get a chance to let us know how it works out for you. That could be beneficial to others if you get a chance to drop an update.

Cheers.

Goodbye then, Mr Chips.

If you were to pause from wallowing in self pity long enough to pay a decent amount of attention to the countless threads that are in this forum where people have audio crackles and dropouts, you would have seen that in 100% of the cases the issue was with one or more of the following:

1.  Slow computer
2.  Little computer memory
3.  Cheesy sound card - sometimes even the on-board sound chips
4.  Not using ASIO
5.  Improper settings for ASIO, such as sample rate mismatch or using too high a sample rate
6.  Hardware/software issues with the computer that interfered with audio streaming
7.  Anything else along these lines that I missed

My point is this.  In virtually EVERY single posted thread on audio dropouts and crackles, it has NEVER been an issue caused by Sonar.

So, you want to go - guess what, your dropouts and crackles will follow you to whatever recording software you think is going to be the Holy Grail.  And don't blame Cakewalk for your being too lazy to research that issue, and too lazy to apply that research to properly configure your audio hardware/software environment for audio processing.  To the best of my recollection, the rest of us have figured out how to configure things so that dropouts and crackles are eliminated for probably close to 100% of projects out there - although some have to freeze/bounce/etc mostly due to not enough memory in their computers for projects that have a zillion tracks and a boatload of virtual synthesizers.  Even those projects have a proven method of getting rid of any audio problems, through freezing/bouncing.  That leaves just you, because you didn't take the time or effort to set things up properly.

Are there bugs?  Sure, there are.  There always will be.  That is true of every piece of commercial software that has ever been developed.  Maintenance is scheduled and performed on a triage basis, where any show stoppers are dealt with first, and then other fixes are addressed through a variety of methods of determination of things like impact of any given issue to the users - issues that affect more users more often are given more priority than more obscure bugs.  That's how things work in software development.  

Nonetheless, there are a whole bunch of folks being quite productive using X2, and X1, and 8.5.3 - working within whatever limitations there are, but working nonetheless.

Coffee tastes better when you aren't crying in the cup.  Good luck.

Bob Bone

anniedog wrote: FYI Cubase 7 is to be released Dec 5th. I looked at the features plus yamaha's new production io ethernet based and expandable console console integration and Daw control . if it works as advertised it will blow everything that exists now away.This even has a special ASIO guard to prevent dropouts. I think I will be moving on. No offence to CW or current users. I was there once was. But no one is listening any more to the users just too many bugs still in X2. It can do all kinds of fancy looping, virtual instruments but cannot track a simple 24 track session without multiple cracks pops latency and dropouts .. My time and my clients time are far too valuable to wait for X 20. It really will take that long until someone gets it and fixes the code from the ground up.I See other loyal cake walkers sniffing out other Daw sites so I am afraid I am not the only one. I'm glad I own no stock in this company. I don't think I could sleep knowing my money was in a very leaky boat with impaired deck officers. Maybe you really should bake cakes , because code writing just is not working for you. My only loyalty from this point on is to my clients and myself.Hard earned cash should buy solutions and not admission to Daw Hell. Please remove from forum. I do thank the kind helpful members for help over the years. I do however believe now this company in beyond help............. Hi i can't read your spec....i don't know.Many Sonar's problems are easy to resolve and the deep knowledge ok your DAW help you.I'm a pro and i haven't any Sonar problems with my rig.The new workflow is awesome and i have great stability and short latency value.I have recorded 16 audio tracks with PC LA2A in real time and the lead vocal and the back vocals were surprised by the monitoring quality.My clients were begun to choose the Sonar prj over Protools Prj for its clarity and dinamic (64bit)sound.Reading the Cubase forums i wish you good luck.Best.Roby

I've tried to go to other daws, yet I keep coming back. I am happy with the direction Cakewalk is taking. Especially after their rocky X1 release. FWIW I've never had problems with the software. I've recorded three albums for myself. At times I've had over 120 tracks in a song (with effects). Not a crack, not a pop, no latency, no dropouts, nothing. No exaggeration! The only time I've had problems was when my memory sticks went bad. I could have blamed it on the software, but because the software had always been stable for me, I knew it was hardware. Your hardware might react differently to a different DAW, but for what it's worth, Sonar has always been harmonious with mine. Knock on wood. Ciao allora

Any DAW not yet released is perfect :)..

Personally if i ran a business and had paying clients the last thing i would ever consider is to purchase something as critical as a DAW sight unseen..

but go ahead, burn them bridges, fella

I'm afraid that if you can't track 24 tracks at once you've got far bigger problems than your choice of software.

Good luck.

MMMM ,
           Sad all he expressed is his opinions and got a heckels raised by the fans. I have been using CW since pro audio 8 so it's not like I'm not loyal to CW but times are changing and IMHO things aren't as rosy as some might wish but there are major flaws in some parts that have been there for quite a while 8.** onwards. I don't complain about them on these forums or any other I wait for a fix. It hasn't been forthcoming and I cant see it happening soon. It's always explained away by difffernt MOBO configs ASIO driver settings ETC.. I can see where he's coming from and I'm exploring how well some other daw combos might work better. STILL an X1d user for now..........................