2012/11/14 17:06:33
ProjectM
@Beepster 

Nuendo is more for post production and audio for video while Cubase is more like Sonar, for music composition etc. Nuendo also have some kick ass network functions for working on projects stored on a server using contents in other locations. Perfect for large facilities.
2012/11/14 17:24:16
John
GIM Productions


For the first time i have seen the new Cubase channel strip.It 's the worst graphics that i've ever seen.It's strange that no one says anything because Sonar's users are always very critical on this topic. The Sonar GUI in comparison is extraordinary.


You must not have read Brando's or my post in reply. Posts 40 and 41.


2012/11/14 17:30:28
GIM Productions
I'm with you
2012/11/14 17:40:05
ProjectM
Believe it or not - Colors are customizable in Cubase and Nuendo, although not any where near as customizable as they used to be in Sonar. However, I think this will be awesome! I'll give Cubase and Nuendo users until December 7th before the catfighting begins - and it's usually really ugly with those guys! 
2012/11/14 17:51:34
Beepster
@ProjectM... hmm, and that's the extent of it? My first DAW was a hand me down Nuendo system. Dude was purely audio based. Weird. I really liked it even though I didn't know what the heck I was doing back then and intended on going back to Nuendo (well using it in conjunction with Sonar) if I ever started making decent money again. However if it's just a really souped up for video version of Cubase I'll have to rethink that. I did however notice the current version of Cubase (6.5) is limited to 32 bit whereas Nuendo is 64. That's a deal breaker.

BTW... I tossed that song I was talking about up in the Songs forum if you wanted to check it out. Still needs some tweaks but I got other stuff going on right now. Cheers.
2012/11/14 18:11:19
GlennP
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Bub
 I understand that software has it's quirks and little bugs here and there ... but nothing to the extent that X1 and X2 have given us. 

Cakewalk has absolutely ZERO loyalty to anyone here. Same for Cubase, ProTools, and all the others. They are here to make money. Period. They aren't here to help you through your day, or befriend you. The people at Cakewalk are there to pay for their cars, homes, children, etc. If anyone has any notion of anything different and feels all warm and fuzzy inside because they've stayed loyal to Cakewalk and feels the need to come on here and defend them and belittle anyone who takes a stand that says they've had enough ... well ... you're an fool in my opinion.

Bub, don’t you realise how much the truth can really hurt people?

@Anniedog:  I welcome your heuristic approach and request only that you enlighten us with your findings in an altruistic way as time goes by.
 

 
 
 



2012/11/14 19:18:52
Rain
backwoods


Looks pretty good to me. They've given Cubendo a facelift.

I don't get how you can collaborate over the internet in real time- what about ping?

Avid going out of business, Logic moving into the shadows, "new code" daws years  behind feature wise;  I always knew it would come down to a battle between two Japanese monsters Godzilla and Mothra, Roland and Yamaha :)


Good luck on your quest for a better DAW than X2 anniedog.

Logic moving in the shadow is pretty much based on rumors and not much more. 


In fact, Apple recently acquired Redmatica (tools for sampling, audio editing and library management). I've also read earlier this week that Apple was recently granted a patent for polyphonic note detection.

These seem to be pretty much in line w/ some thing that could be implemented in Logic. 

2012/11/14 19:23:41
backwoods
Hey Beepster- Cubase is 64 bit.

You might be right about Logic Rain but my personal opinion is that it is  probably withering on the vine- like Sony Acid.  I know a few Logic users who are actually quite frustrated with the lack of updates- and yes, some of these guys are professionals.
2012/11/14 19:33:27
Beepster
Hiya, backwoods. 

hmm... this page on the Steinberg site doesn't mention it...

http://www.steinberg.net/...ts/cubase/line_up.html

Sorry for the formatting in the following but this is how it copy/pasted...

Cubase 7 Cubase Artist 7 Cubase Elements 6 Ideal for: Professional producers, mixing engineers, composers Ideal for: Seasoned musicians, project studio owners, bands Ideal for: Home recordists, bands, singer/songwriters, creative musicians 32-bit/192 kHz Steinberg audio engine with 5.1 surround support 32-bit/192 kHz Steinberg audio engine 24-bit/96 kHz Steinberg audio engine Record and mix unlimited audio, instrument and MIDI tracks Record and mix up to 64 audio and 128 MIDI tracks Record and mix up to 48 audio and 64 MIDI tracks

I must be missing something. Perhaps it is samplerate dependent? These are the yet to be released versions so I couldn't see them going backwards on bit depth.

Doesn't really matter at this point though. I'm gonna be running X2 as my main DAW for at least a year or so unless I can pull a hit record out of my arse in the near future... which frankly just isn't gonna happen. Cheers.
2012/11/14 19:37:53
Beepster
Wow... it destroyed the formatting even more as soon as I hit post. lol

The chart is in the link. If I did end up investing in Steinberg I'd likely use it mostly more for the actual editing phase. That's the one part of Sonar I find to be really annoying and unstable. Particularly slip editing. Mind you maybe Cubase does the same kind of stuff these days as well (I would prefer an option to be able to manually choose my editing tools as opposed to the silly hotspots at the start/ends of clips... the constant zooming is bothersome).
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