That's interesting beepster- I know there is definitely a 32bit Cubase 6 install and a Cubase x64 install also. 

I lucked upon a Nuendo license a few years back and have kept it at the latest version and that is certainly 64bit.


edit: just did some research beepster and Nuendo is 32bit floating in both 32 and 64 bit versions. I have no idea what this means and have no interest in finding out.

I kinda agree with ANNIE... CW worked better when it had fewer features.  I can't get through an entire session without at least one "OFF THE WALL" reboot.

Worse yet, most of the time when I END TASK from SONAR NOT RESPONDING, it requires a complete system REBOOT... so like 5 minutes later, I am back in business... talk about BUZZ KILL.

BUt, on the other hand, if it didn't keep up with the JONES'S, we would all be whining about its lack of features.  I admit, SONAR is one complicated program but trying to be everything to every user isn't working either.

Jim

PS - Bye ANNIE.

Oh... you know what? I'm getting confused (as usual). That's probably referring to 32 bit (float) depth. It likely supports 64 bit plugs. Still that is something you'd think they'd put right up front. IIRC Pro Tools is still 32 bit limited so it would be a good selling point considering they are a major competitor. 

This whole 64/32 stuff still eludes me. All I really know is that the 64 bit stuff just uses ALL of my RAM as opposed to only 4 gigs of it... and I might be completely wrong on that as well. I TRY to be a computer guy but still kind of suck at it, lol.

Cheers, dude.

Actually reminds me of how I discovered the bit NO NO of flopping around between bit depths back on Nuendo. I couldn't understand why my 32 bit projects all of a sudden had tons of pops and scratches when I exported to 16 bit. An engineering buddy of mine told me to use 24 bit instead but neglected to explain what dithering was. It lessened the pops and stuff but I'd still have to export a couple times to get a clean version. That was years ago. Man... I've learned SO much in that past 5 months from this forum. Even if Sonar was a total piece of crap (which it isn't) this forum makes the purchase WAAAAY worth the money. I've said it a couple times but the sheer reputation of this forum and Cakewalk service that gets talked about online was big deciding factor for me buying... and it's all true. ;-)

backwoods




edit: just did some research beepster and Nuendo is 32bit floating in both 32 and 64 bit versions. I have no idea what this means and have no interest in finding out.

While both Nuendo and Cubase are 64 bit applications (if so installed), they utilize a 32 bit floating point audio engine.

Sonar Xx utilizes a 64 bit double precision audio engine if so selected in the "preferences"

So the 32 bit reference is for the Audio Engine, but not the program itself.

even though there was no interest in finding out...=P

backwoods


Hey Beepster- Cubase is 64 bit.

You might be right about Logic Rain but my personal opinion is that it is  probably withering on the vine- like Sony Acid.  I know a few Logic users who are actually quite frustrated with the lack of updates- and yes, some of these guys are professionals.

I know what you mean - there's a 25 thread about Logic X on the Logic Pro forums, and some are indeed pretty frustrated.


On the other hand, in all honesty, the application is running A-1 and still gets maintenance updates - the most recent one last week I think. In terms of feature, it's pretty much on par w/ everything else out there. So it's an old piece of software but it really isn't obsolete. 


One obvious thing I can think of where Logic has to catch up is that it doesn't handle 32 Bit FP files. The audio editor and the sampler may also benefit from a few touch ups - I wouldn't be surprised if the acquisition of Redmatica was linked to that.

But for the rest, unless one considers having the equivalent of Melodyne integration in S1 a must-have standard (and I suspect the above-mentioned patent may very well mean that such a thing is in the works) or joining into the mixing desk emulation, every thing is pretty much on par w/ the current standards.

Most of the sales pitch for other daws I've heard and read in the last 2 years described revolutionary new features which are already in Logic, like swipe comping or a unified GUI (skylight).

Personally, besides for a few refinements, 32 bit FP support and maybe refreshing the all-too-grey GUI, I'm in no hurry to see the new version. I also work w/ Cubase, Studio One and Pro Tools, but w/ the exception of the integrated Melodyne in S1, there really isn't anything that stands out as years ahead - often the opposite. 

A lot if not most of the negative buzz I've read seemed to emanate from people who were simply using the wrong tool for what they wanted to accomplish imho - most of the time, my only answer would be Logic is not Ableton Live and you should be using Ableton Live.

Beepster


Actually reminds me of how I discovered the bit NO NO of flopping around between bit depths back on Nuendo. I couldn't understand why my 32 bit projects all of a sudden had tons of pops and scratches when I exported to 16 bit. An engineering buddy of mine told me to use 24 bit instead but neglected to explain what dithering was. It lessened the pops and stuff but I'd still have to export a couple times to get a clean version. That was years ago. Man... I've learned SO much in that past 5 months from this forum. Even if Sonar was a total piece of crap (which it isn't) this forum makes the purchase WAAAAY worth the money. I've said it a couple times but the sheer reputation of this forum and Cakewalk service that gets talked about online was big deciding factor for me buying... and it's all true. ;-)

When I read posts like this all I can do is blush! Unfortunately I don't blush that often here. But it is nice to be able to do so from time to time. 

I know you're not talking to me about this but none the less I do take pleasure in hearing it just the same.  Thank you Beep!

As we say in Florida, "adios amigo."

IMHO..   Cubase now has, "an awesomely fantastic looking GUI."    What's under the hood, is the same exact program that crashed a lot at Versions SX 1, 2, 3..  and versions, 1, 2, 3, 4...  After 4, I do not know if it crashed a lot, but I am guessing, "it still crashes a lot."

Hey, I might as well be speaking directly to you John (as well as others posters like yourself). You're the one that first suggested my initial issues might be related to my old PCI based interface. Without info like that where would I be? Not to mention you are the first person that talked to me on here at what? 2 AM? lol... AND gave me tons of welcoming and encouragement to boot. Cheers, bro.