FastBikerBoy


This thread should get completely out of hand interesting when some of the older boys see it.

An older boy made me read this thread.......

joakes


This is serious ???

Karl, you do mean senior posters as against elder citizens (there would be an emoticon here but posting on an iPad from China doesn't do it. Its the one were the face is grey and the tongue is out !)

Cheers,
Jerry

Edited for attrocious iPad spelling

Yes Jerry the tongue is fully out. :-)

I'm using it in the context of the schoolboy who uses "the older boys made me do it" as an excuse. So yes the senior schoolboys posters. I'm nearly one myself now though.

Hi jaws,
It´s at least  a good question and discusable idea in your thread,
I don´t think cake "feels " insulted 

regards

It's like handing the dealer a bunch of cash after you already paid for the car. No thanks, I will hold on to my money and continue using the included warranty.

jaws44


I apologize if i insulted anybody, it was not my intention. and i did not intend to say that CW are not doing their job; i wanted to say that i love sonar and i want it to be perfect.

I'm not saying that others are better but anything can be improved more and why i should not help.

I think CW can access my account and they can know how much i like their products to buy a lot of them.

Since my intentions are totally misunderstood, i will remove this thread by myself. i will search the otions to see how to do that

Dude, you didn't insult anyone I don't think, we're just having a go at ya in good fun, if anyone gets insulted at anything that's not "yo mama" or "how ugly your face is" level, tell them to go stuff themselves and let them know they need to grow a pair.

Here, have a hug... yeah I'm drunk.. it's Saturday I'm allowed 

This is the stupidest thing Ive ever read and Ive read some pretty stupid things in the past 7 years here.
Most of them written by myself LOL

You didn't think this through Bro
 
 
CJ

the premise of this thread seems to be well-meaning, but is flawed and impractical.

in software development, you can't just throw money -- especially temporary for hire money -- at the problem.

it has to be built-in, planned, architected, scaled, and provisioned for, for the the long run. a company can't run a yearly development cycle and business based on the hope they may or may not get donations.

the hire would have to be mentored in to a decades-old codebase.

no developer of this caliber would do this on a six month or year-long stint. it's a major career choice.

there are not many software developers in the world that have this kind of experience. this is the kind of thing where someone from, say, steinberg leaves and joins presonus (a real example of the two founding presonus engineers). is someone like that going to take a 3 month donation fund? no way. they've got families to feed, probably.

so, are you really proposing coming up with a six figure salary x 3 years minimum? cuz that's what it would take -- for just one developer of the kind of caliber they require.

all this is moot, anyway, the person best suited to fix the bugs is the engineer that created them. you hire outside help to add self-contained, product-ized new features, not to try to dig through someone else's code to fix their bugs.

you should forget about this, apply for a beta test position, and if accepted, actively contribute to it.

there are no more or less bugs in Sonar than any DAW. not being a Sonar fanboi -- i've mostly switched to Studio One, actually. :blush:

Are you proposing we throw 'money' at the situation? I'm in....

Jalcide has it right. 

The problem is that in order to meet release/revenue guidelines the developer has to push out less than fully tested versions. To meet the customer craving for new features it has to constantly start new projects before old ones are fully implemented. And to compete on price with other developers, it has to charge less than it needs to hire staff to fully support the product i.e. fix the bugs.

But even with unlimited resources it takes a certain amount of time for the bugs to surface, for the programmers to figure out why the program fails in these cases, to fix the bugs, and to test the fix to be sure it does not break something else. If a multi-billion dollar company like Microsoft is incapable of releasing software that works flawlessly out of the box, it is not because they need a donation.

If a multi-billion dollar company like Microsoft is incapable of releasing software that works flawlessly out of the box, it is not because they need a donation.

 
Aint that the truth...    Reality is that money isn't the answer: you also need time.  And more often than not that's a bigger factor.