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  • X2 PRV - How do we trim velocities of selected midi notes? *Solved*
2012/11/17 22:16:10
guitartrek
For example, I'd like to trim some Kick velocities - but not HiHat or Snare velocities.  I would normally lassoo the Kick midi notes and then trim the velocities with the mouse.  When I try to do this, as soon as I start trimming, it deselects the kick drum and I start trimming not only the Kick, but HiHat or any other notes that are in the way.  Hopefully I'm doing this wrong and there is a way to do this.
 
This capability was left out of the original X1, and they finally restored it in later versions.  I hope this capability wasn't taken away in X2?
2012/11/17 22:42:45
sharke
I just tried it on a drum track in the PRV and it works OK for me. So rest assured, you can do it in X2! You're talking about trimming velocities with the pen that has the little bar graph icon above it? 
2012/11/17 23:19:08
guitartrek
Sharke - yes - but only with selected midi notes.  I can trim, but I don't want to trim every velocity.  For example, I may want to adjust the HiHat velocitites and leave the snare and kick alone.  Normally I would select the HiHats and trim only those velocities.  Can you do that with X2? 

Sometimes the midi notes of cymbals overlap the snare and kick, and usually the velocities are different.  If I trim, they all trim to the same velocity.  That's not desireable.   
2012/11/17 23:39:57
rcrees
guitartrek


For example, I'd like to trim some Kick velocities - but not HiHat or Snare velocities.  I would normally lassoo the Kick midi notes and then trim the velocities with the mouse.  When I try to do this, as soon as I start trimming, it deselects the kick drum and I start trimming not only the Kick, but HiHat or any other notes that are in the way.  Hopefully I'm doing this wrong and there is a way to do this.
 
This capability was left out of the original X1, and they finally restored it in later versions.  I hope this capability wasn't taken away in X2?

Open the Step Sequencer view. You should be able to adjust the velocities of individual instruments.
2012/11/17 23:55:31
sharke
guitartrek


Sharke - yes - but only with selected midi notes.  I can trim, but I don't want to trim every velocity.  For example, I may want to adjust the HiHat velocitites and leave the snare and kick alone.  Normally I would select the HiHats and trim only those velocities.  Can you do that with X2? 

Sometimes the midi notes of cymbals overlap the snare and kick, and usually the velocities are different.  If I trim, they all trim to the same velocity.  That's not desireable.   

This is what I did - I selected a row of hi-hats using the lasso, and trimmed the velocities of all of them at once. It didn't affect any of the other velocities. When you select a group of notes, whatever action you apply to one of them is applied to them all (move, lengthen, velocity trim etc)
2012/11/18 00:15:28
guitartrek
sharke - that's encouraging - I must be doing something wrong, or have a setting wrong.  Yes - when I select multiple notes, and adjust something it affects all notes.  That works.  Except when I try to trim using the trimmer down below in the velocity lane.  As soon as I click to trim, it de-selects the notes, and the trim applies to every velocity.

Just to confirm - after you lasso selected the hihats, only the high hat velelocities show up in the controller lane (that's what I get too).  Then you went down to the velocity controller lane and using left click and drag, you trimmed only the hihats?  And none of the other midi velocities of unselected notes suddenly became visible as soon as you pressed down on the left click?
2012/11/18 00:36:16
Teds_Studio
Once you have your midi notes selected...hover your mouse cursor on top of one of the notes.  It will change to a different icon (shaped like a mountain) for a lack of a better term.  Once the icon changes to this...left click and drag up and down.  This will adjust the velocity of all notes selected.

If you want to select ALL of a certain "note" such as hi hat...click on that note in the drum map on the left of the window and it will select all of those notes through out the song.
2012/11/18 00:38:56
Teds_Studio
When I say "hover your mouse cursor on top of one of the notes"...that means literally on the top part of the note....just to clarify.
2012/11/18 00:45:30
sharke
^^^What Teds_Studio said above....there is no need to move down into the controller lane to adjust velocities. I've never had much luck down there. It definitely works best to use the smart tool on the notes themselves. You have to put it right on top of the note, somewhere in the middle. Can be a little fiddly when you're dealing with short notes, but you definitely get the knack after a while. The icon in question is a pen with a sort of bar chart above it, or like Teds_Studio says, a mountain. 
2012/11/18 06:04:22
Bristol_Jonesey
There are at least 3 other ways to adjust the velocities of selected notes:

  1. Via the Event Inspector in the Toolbar
  2. Via the dedicated Midi Velocity Tool (this one is extremely flexible)
  3. There is also the Process > Scale Velocity function

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