rogeriodec

cclarry
Each instance of Altiverb on the bus would replicate the
relative location of the particular "Section" 

After all, it is what I am saying from the beginning: for each position, I need a new instance.
That was my question.
But thanks for all the support.

And that was my answer...i.e.

you would have one instance of Altiverb for the Strings
(obviously could even break that down to Violins, Violas, Cellos..etc..)
one for the Brass, one of the woodwinds, one for perscussion, etc..

You're "OP" said each INSTRUMENT position, not each "Section"...
while you could do each "Instrument Position" you are now using more
and more instances of Altiverb, which will continually eat away at your CPU...
 
 

rogeriodec
Thanks, I know how to use Send, but as far as I know, send allows more dry or wet reverb, but does not allows me to set multiple positions on stage on a single instance of Altiverb.
Could you explain a little bit more?

I haven't used Sonar in a while, but does it not have a pan control for the send? I would think it would, as it's very common to use the pan control on an effects send to deliver the signal into the proper space on a stereo effects bus.

Maybe you should look into Virtual Sound Stage? I've often been tempted to try it (which you can do for free). It is not a reverb,, but a spatial positioning plug-in, which lets you put each instrument exactly where you want it, in two dimensions. I hear nothing but good things about it, so it may be worth looking into.

michael diemer
Maybe you should look into Virtual Sound Stage? I've often been tempted to try it (which you can do for free). It is not a reverb,, but a spatial positioning plug-in, which lets you put each instrument exactly where you want it, in two dimensions. I hear nothing but good things about it, so it may be worth looking into.

Well, Altiverb does the same thing, but also includes reverb....
And reading the "Basic Setup" of VSS:
You’ll need an instance of VirtualSoundStage for every instrument you want to put into the virtual room. So first of all you need to make sure that all of your instruments are available as seperate stereo tracks within your DAW. 

Have you tried the suggestion of changing the pan knob on the console panel? 

DarinBad
 
I haven't used Sonar in a while, but does it not have a pan control for the send? I would think it would, as it's very common to use the pan control on an effects send to deliver the signal into the proper space on a stereo effects bus.

Yes, there is a send pan control. Aux sends preserve panning by default, but may optionally be unlinked from the main track pan and set independently. It can be a nice special effect for lead instruments and vocals.
 
However, this control is only useful for mono tracks, and only when you specifically want the reverb send to be panned differently from the main signal. Normally, an aux send's panning follows the track pan, and normally that's exactly what you want.
 
It's especially not needed nor recommended when using pre-panned orchestral sections/instruments on stereo tracks. Remember, panning means nothing on a stereo track or a stereo send. In that context, it's just a left-right balance control and shifts the entire stereo content. You don't want to shove the entire orchestra to one side of the stage!
 
 

I finally decided to ask directly to  Audio Ease support.
I think with this we have the entire solution at once.
Thank you all for the attention.
 
Below the answer:
 
Aram Verwoest replied:
 
Hi Rogerio,
If you want to use multiple positions you will have to do this with multiple Altiverb instances.
But there is a trick:
the IR is divided in three parts, direct, early reflections and tail
the stage positioning tool controls the first two (direct and early), these are relatively short.
so, what you can do is create 7 AUX tracks.
insert an Altiverb on each, and load the same IR.
Then on the first 6 you turn off the tail (saves processing)
and you route the first 6 into AUX 7 and on this one you only turn ON tail (turn OFF direct and early).
Then you can set up 6 different locations on the first 6 aux channels.
Then route your instruments to these six locations.
Here’s an instruction on how to do this in Altiverb 6:
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiverb/AltiverbStagepositions.html
in Altiverb 7 this works the same, then direct/early/tail controls are in the panel below the pre-delay and attack controls.

I finally decided to ask directly to support Audioease, which is the manufacturer of Altiverb, below the answer:
 
Aram Verwoest replied:

Hi Rogerio,
If you want to use multiple positions you will have to do this with multiple Altiverb instances.
But there is a trick:
the IR is divided in three parts, direct, early reflections and tail
the stage positioning tool controls the first two (direct and early), these are relatively short.
so, what you can do is create 7 AUX tracks.
insert an Altiverb on each, and load the same IR.
Then on the first 6 you turn off the tail (saves processing)
and you route the first 6 into AUX 7 and on this one you only turn ON tail (turn OFF direct and early).
Then you can set up 6 different locations on the first 6 aux channels.
Then route your instruments to these six locations.
Here’s an instruction on how to do this in Altiverb 6:
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiverb/AltiverbStagepositions.html
in Altiverb 7 this works the same, then direct/early/tail controls are in the panel below the pre-delay and attack controls.

Best regards, 

Aram Verwoest 
Audio Ease support 
support@audioease.com 

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With that I think we have all the solution now.
Thank you all for the attention.

I hope this solves the problem! Sounds rather complicated, but these things usually are.