Let's see.  I buy a Waves bundle and I get WUP for a year.  I can let WUP lapse and continue using what I already have with no further updates, or I can renew WUP and continue to get updates.
 
I don't know guys, price points aside, this has a really familiar ring to it.

The difference is that with Sonar and others you DO get constant ongoing updates. With waves...not so much...unless you own one of the big bundles. And even then, unless that bundle is Mercury...not so
much. Plus Sonar Platinum...the arguable equivalent of Waves Mercury...costs less than half per year than the WUP to renew. And waaay less to purchase in the first place.

When they dominated the industry I couldn't get a 5 % discount on any of their products.

Now they just about give their stuff away with these daily sales and they come up with this ludicrous over-priced update plan.

If this was pre-planned, it seems a bit sinister.

yorolpal
The difference is that with Sonar and others you DO get constant ongoing updates. With waves...not so much...unless you own one of the big bundles. And even then, unless that bundle is Mercury...not so
much. Plus Sonar Platinum...the arguable equivalent of Waves Mercury...costs less than half per year than the WUP to renew. And waaay less to purchase in the first place.

I *did* say 'price points aside' ...
 
I'm new to Waves stuff so I don't know the history of their updates or the value the updates might represent.  I do know that darn near everybody in this niche is trying to get some kind of ongoing revenue stream going.
 
 

ampfixer
At this point I'm wondering if version 10 will kill off V9. That's another shady trend I'm seeing in software these days. It would appear that milking existing customers is more profitable than getting new ones. 

Won't happen. They did this in the past and took a lot of heat.

Don't be too sure. I'll help you hope, ol pal.

BobF
Let's see.  I buy a Waves bundle and I get WUP for a year.  I can let WUP lapse and continue using what I already have with no further updates, or I can renew WUP and continue to get updates.
 
I don't know guys, price points aside, this has a really familiar ring to it.

Hi BobF:
A reasonable point, but what I would add is that with SONAR I actually do get monthly updates.  With Waves, since I have individual plugins, there aren't any updates (at least that I'm aware of), so I would pay $457 annually for support.  With SONAR, even without continuing the update plan, you still have this forum, so a degree of support is available to any user for free.
Lastly, even though you set the price point aside, that is the point.  A $457 annual fee for updates seems, to me, to be usurious.  But, I guess that is Waves prerogative. 
 
All the best.

Waves is the Intuit of the audio world.....
 
Although perhaps not quite so bad. I'll never forget when Intuit told me that they were disabling my ability to email an invoice from Quickbooks, but that I could have it back if I upgraded to the new version (which, apart from that, offered me NOTHING new that I needed in the way of functionality). I eventually upgraded a couple of years ago, and since then I've seen other little areas of the program "break," presumably so I'll be tempted to upgrade to 2016 or whatever they're on now. 
 
I'm pretty much locked into Quickbooks because my accountant requires it, and there isn't much else available anyway that doesn't suck. Waves, however, needs to realize that there are SO many other options for producers these days. There is cheaper and there is better. 

jude77

BobF
Let's see.  I buy a Waves bundle and I get WUP for a year.  I can let WUP lapse and continue using what I already have with no further updates, or I can renew WUP and continue to get updates.
 
I don't know guys, price points aside, this has a really familiar ring to it.

Hi BobF:
A reasonable point, but what I would add is that with SONAR I actually do get monthly updates.  With Waves, since I have individual plugins, there aren't any updates (at least that I'm aware of), so I would pay $457 annually for support.  With SONAR, even without continuing the update plan, you still have this forum, so a degree of support is available to any user for free.
Lastly, even though you set the price point aside, that is the point.  A $457 annual fee for updates seems, to me, to be usurious.  But, I guess that is Waves prerogative. 
 
All the best.

I'm sure if my email was an offer to pay them $457 I would have the same reaction.  I wouldn't pay it, and I would likely be pizzed about the prospect of my prior investment shriveling on the vine.
 
$100-150/year for Sonar is a pretty good deal given the year one "track" record.  When we first bought into the model with Cake, we didn't know what was coming either.  We'll see how it goes with all of the companies.

jude77
 $457.20 for a year.

Hey Jude  
Again: If you're using all on One machine, the price should be much much lower.
Would you like me to look into this? (I'm a reseller) maybe I can help.
PM me if yes. Even just for your curiousity.  (mine too,  I admit  )
 
Koby