Thanks for your input GIM, very nice of you, and Im glad your happy with the CE.

I have put on one CE first in the chain and one last (on channel). I have put only one first on the buses, and one first on the Pre-master fader bus. Not sure if I did get this right, should I use Post FX checked for the one in the Pre-master fader bus then?



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Hi Erik,console emu is awesome.You must put use an every tracks couse its effect is cumulative.To sim a large console preamp you must put CE channel on first place with post fx unchecked and CE bus at last with post FX checked.To sim an analog summing console you must put CE chan at the last insert with post FX checked and the same for CE bus.Best 

I did upload a picture with previous post, why don't I see it??

I posted a while back that I wasn't sure what I was hearing with the CEs on. After about a week of turning them on and turning them off, trying them here and over there and before and after whatever, I finally started to realize I was hearing a difference with and without. It is a very subtle difference to listen for but if you work with them long enough you start to understand them better. I still can't say that I am overwhelmed by the sound of them but, at this point, I do hear the difference. Whether or not I use them on a specific project is hard to say but it's nice to have another tool in the box.

Yes, you do click post for it to work.

I'm just starting a project using the CE, so I will judge then.  I'm also trying a mastering project using an uncompressed render of a song, using  the track and bus CE with other mastering fx.  Didn't notice any diff doing that but didn't A/B it and critically listen either.  
I noticed that if you start a new project in x2, it offers a 16 and 24 track project template using CE, then if you select one, it asks which one you want, then populates the tracks with the track CE and the master with the bus CE.

I hear a diff with & without...And I treat it like "Franks Red Hot Sauce", I put that sh!t on everything...lol

I'll have to wait till I can upgrade to Producer before I can use Prochannel...argh. Nevertheless, you can't beat the fact that I got X2 Essential for $49...

My only regret - control surface automation only works in touch mode...


The secret - B&H. They're a stocking distributor and they drive hard deals to move product. When X2 was announced, they immediately dropped X1 by half to move it off the shelf - of course, Cakewalk was offering the free upgrade, so... It's the same with hardware, if you see something you like and it's going off market, check 'em out.

There's SO much I could say on this topic...but I have too much work to do tonight. Short form:

After the first hour I experimented with the Console Emulator, I figured I'd never use it again. Then I saw the comment about inserting it in every channel FIRST, and mixing through it. I tried that, and thought it had promise.

Then I ran some tests to find out exactly what it was doing. That helped me figure out how to apply it better. More importantly, Quick Group is your friend with the CE. It lets you bypass/enable all of them at once, as well as adjust the trim and drive controls simultaneously.

I wrote my next Sonar column on the CE. The first third is about how consoles affected the sound, why that mattered, and why you might want to emulate some elements of it. In particular, the CEs emulate some of the characteristics of transformers. One of the very few instances where I use the CE NOT as intended is as an effect on bass with the S-type module to emphasize the transformer emulation aspects.

I currently have two songs posted on my YouTube channel (subscribe! share the links! ) that use the CE extensively. One is called "When the Grid Goes Down" and the other is called "Little Pieces." I also posted an A-B comparison with the CE bypassed and enabled as it plays an excerpt of "When the Grid Goes Down." The alteration is subtle, but definitely audible.

Bottom line: I was raised during a time when the Aphex Aural Exciter was rented out by the hour. The CE accomplishes the same sort of thing from a conceptual standpoint - it can add an extra 5% of coolness to a piece of music when applied properly.

Hi Erik,happy to help you.You should not put two instances on the channel and bus to simulated a large console preamp.One of the CE Channel at beginning of the chain with the post fx off and one instance of CE Bus at last of the chain to simulate the large console sum bus.If you put two instances you may have an harmonic amplification of low harmonics,on the Trident emu especially.This become an unreal behavior of a real console.However, as mr.Anderton writes in his topic, you can experiment with the use of the post fx depending on your needs.Best.Roby

Thank you for your input Craig:) Very nice of you to test the CE.

Where can I read your Sonar Column? 


PS - like your songs, well produced:)

Anderton


There's SO much I could say on this topic...but I have too much work to do tonight. Short form:

After the first hour I experimented with the Console Emulator, I figured I'd never use it again. Then I saw the comment about inserting it in every channel FIRST, and mixing through it. I tried that, and thought it had promise.

Then I ran some tests to find out exactly what it was doing. That helped me figure out how to apply it better. More importantly, Quick Group is your friend with the CE. It lets you bypass/enable all of them at once, as well as adjust the trim and drive controls simultaneously.

I wrote my next Sonar column on the CE. The first third is about how consoles affected the sound, why that mattered, and why you might want to emulate some elements of it. In particular, the CEs emulate some of the characteristics of transformers. One of the very few instances where I use the CE NOT as intended is as an effect on bass with the S-type module to emphasize the transformer emulation aspects.

I currently have two songs posted on my YouTube channel (subscribe! share the links! ) that use the CE extensively. One is called "When the Grid Goes Down" and the other is called "Little Pieces." I also posted an A-B comparison with the CE bypassed and enabled as it plays an excerpt of "When the Grid Goes Down." The alteration is subtle, but definitely audible.

Bottom line: I was raised during a time when the Aphex Aural Exciter was rented out by the hour. The CE accomplishes the same sort of thing from a conceptual standpoint - it can add an extra 5% of coolness to a piece of music when applied properly.