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2016/01/04 22:35:16
Vastman
Xmas eve... all night long... many of us were playing it... I was tweeting Daniel James madly... dude!  in 20 minutes he was playing it too... it is what all of us did all night long... 
 
Amicus, while you missed the intro, each phase of it's 4 stage introduction (each quarter new maga stuff is being added) the price will be going up with each addition.  However if you buy in at any point all the rest of the phases are gifted to you...
 
I've chatted with Ondrej, the performer/Vir dude... great people, very involved with the community over at VIC, receptive and interacting with ideas and suggestions... and it is a unique moment in history.  
 
Get it!
2016/01/05 11:45:39
TerraSin
VastmanYou might want to hold your breath for Virharmonic's "Soul Capture" series cello, which is up for release this quarter... The first phase of their four phased introduction of the Bohemian Violin has... let's just say... blown everyone away, out of the water, into orgasmic ecstasy... and it's just a baby... but wildly heralded as the most playable instrument anyone has touched todate...

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's blown everyone away. It's extremely impressive but it needs a lot of work. Very expressive instrument that has a fantastic sound. The problem is it has the same limitations that Tina has in that it has a very specific sound which really prevents it from being an all around work tool. It's capable of being extremely expressive but lacks the ability to do much else because of the way they are recording it.
 
This may change in the future with the expansions but I'm not holding my breath. I think Embertone really hit it out of the park with all around ability for a solo string, though it does take a fair bit more programming work to make perfect though it lacks the user friendly playability of VIRs.
2016/01/06 22:59:34
Amicus717
Well, a couple days ago I sent my comment about some of the samples in the Solo Cello to EW Customer support, and they replied to me today confirming that they are also hearing what I'm hearing, and that the matter has been sent along to their devs. They didn't outright say there is a problem, per se, but that there may be "bow noise" or something else in the sample, and they'll look into the matter, and if the sample needs to be released a patch will be "sent out ASAP" (the reps specific words).
 
Figured folks might want to know. For what it's worth, I've always had positive experience with EW customer support. I gather not everyone has, judging by some comments I've read (both on the Cakewalk forums and other places), but I only have good things to say about their response time and helpfulness.
 
And, after messing around with some of the other patches in the Solo Cello, I like it better than I did when I first heard it. There's definitely some useful stuff here...
 
2016/01/06 23:35:59
Fleer
Same here regarding EastWest support. Top notch, can't complain at all.
2016/01/07 00:44:30
Sycraft
Their support will always try to help initially, I've never heard of them ignoring people, which is a common CS issue with companies. The problem is when you have a tough issue that they can't easily figure out. That's when they push back and declare it must be your fault and get unhelpful. They aren't real good at acknowledging that their software has issues. If they find sample issues they'll fix it by patching around it (stretching samples up or down, removing one form a round robin, etc) no problem. They are good at sampling. However if you hit issues with their software, you often hit a brick wall. That's not to say you will, the issues are not universal, but because of that they seem unwilling to try and solve them and 100% convinced it is your system, even if you can present good proof it isn't.
 
Likewise there are things they don't know how to fix, and so just declare working as is. Fast bounce (offline bounce) is one of those. On some systems, it glitches out since they aren't doing it right. They say that nothing can be done, you just have to use realtime bounce that fast bounce is inherently problematic. That's BS of course, a properly designed plugin works better in offline mode, because it can take as much time as needed, going slower than realtime if the situation calls for it. However their programmers can't figure out how to make that work it seems, so if you have issues with fast bounce (you may not if you have fast drives) they say "Only realtime bounce is supported".
 
Hence I always just tell people to be cautious with EW. It isn't that their stuff is crap, it's not the samples are amazing. It isn't that they'll ignore you, they won't. It is that you may run in to a tricky problem on your setup and you are then hosed, it isn't going to get fixed.
2016/01/18 21:55:16
Amicus717
Sorry for the delay in getting folks the patch. I figured I should ask Best Service if they would have any issue with me posting and making publicly available a patch that they had not officially approved. It took a few days for them to get back to me. They asked me not to post it, said that the patch is not yet official, but if anyone needs it they can just contact Best Service customer support: support@bestservice.de

Aw damn - I updated the wrong post. The above refers to my post about Era II, not the EW cello. Sorry folks. I'll fix this tomorrow....
2016/01/18 23:02:43
AllanH
I will be interesting if there is an update coming. There was definitely a fair bit of noise at VI-Control over this. I still default to my trusted MP1 solo cello
 
2016/04/16 01:28:21
Fleer
Got the Hollywood Cello and Violin now. About 40GB each. Wonderful instruments :)
2016/04/16 10:24:19
AllanH
Thank you for the update Fleer. I've been trying to decide with the impending expiration of the intro offer. EWQL added a solo violin demo. The demo is a bit busy, but the solo violin does sound excellent.
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