2017/11/17 20:59:56
yellowcake64
Hi all

Sorry if this isn’t the right forum, but it’s about TH3.

I purchased the full version after buying Platinum. I like it but the high gain patches are REALLY noisy; actually excessively so. I’m relatively inexperienced with amp sims, but apart from the obvious (shoving a gate in), have any of you had similar problems and managed to improve things? Thanks.

Dave
2017/11/17 21:14:36
TheSteven
Does your guitar have unshielded single coil pickups?
If so the pickups are picking up noise from your computer.
2017/11/17 21:19:55
yellowcake64
Hmm. Not sure. It’s an old Washburn Chicago KC90. Two single coil; single humbucker with coil tap. Seymour Duncans. If this is the problem, what can be done?
2017/11/17 21:21:38
TheSteven
I have problems with my strat clone due to that issue.
I have to angle my guitar just right or the noise is overwhelming.
2017/11/17 21:24:01
yellowcake64
That’s the right word ‘overwhelming’. I’d go so far as to say unusable. Not sure where I can go with this.
2017/11/17 21:26:14
dnelson1971
I haven't used TH3 yet but this problem exists for all amp sims. When you pump up the gain you are boosting the input signal along with all of the noise that is present in that signal. Things like USB cables, guitar cables, hot pickups, interference from computer monitors, WiFi antennas, bluetooth antennas, noisy interface preamps, etc. all add to this noise floor and are amplified right along with the sound of the guitar. You can try things like moving your interface as far from the computer as possible, turn off bluetooth and WiFi if it's a laptop, experiment with different pickup configurations if you have a switch but you will still may need to add a gate to the beginning of the plugin chain. The thing that made the biggest difference for me was a new interface.
2017/11/17 21:26:40
TheSteven
Does your pickup selector have a hum canceling switch setting?
- If it has a setting that uses both single coils check that out - some guitars wire them out of phase so that they act like a humbucker when combined.
 
Also try changing what angle your guitar faces the computer and see if there's a sweet spot that is quieter.
2017/11/17 21:47:17
tlw
The problem occurs with amps and pedals as well as sims.

If you use a lot of gain/compression that boosts the noise coming from the guitar itself and any pedals before the gain is added.

Gates are a last resort fix that’s rarely satisfactory, and they always affect both the attack and sustain of the guitar.

Humbucker-equipped quitars shouldn’t be as noisy as single coils, but even a well shielded guitar with good humbuckers will still pick up some electrical buzz from sourounding stuff. Guitar leads also pick up noise and can act as ariels, especially with some pedals such as simple fuzz circuits. Computers put out a lot of electrical noise as radio which guitars pick up and send to the amp. Changing the angle between guitar and computer/monitor can sometimes make for a big decrease (or increase) in the noise picked up by the pickups.

Paying attention to gain staging can go a long way towards minimising noise. E.g. running a distortion pedal that boosts the signal a lot and creates noise itself into another similar pedal, compressor or a high-gain amp is a recipe for a lot of noise. For minimal noise, pedals that generate noise are best used into cleaner amps that boost the noise floor less than a high gain amp channel. The ideal is to get the noise floor as low as possible by better gain staging and then consider gating as a last resort. A gate that only affects certain frequency bands, such as a couple of Bozdigital’s, can be useful on guitar and be much less obtrusive than a full-frequency gate.

It does have to be said that some amp sims are very noisy themselves, maybe even noisier than the amp they are trying to emulate. Same with some effects emulations, which start with over the top settings and noise levels. The Amplitube Big Muff being an example of one.
2017/11/17 23:22:29
yellowcake64
Thanks for the insightful suggestions. Going to be a bit of trial and error I guess. I have found an ‘angle’ where the noise seems at a minimum so that’s a good starting point.

Dave
2017/11/17 23:43:44
Thedoccal
Put the Expander/Gate module in the Pro Channel Rack.
Do it RIGHT NOW!
I had the exact same problem with Amplitube.
The Expander/Gate module was INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!
Problem GONE!!!!!!!
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