Steinberg announces major notation initiative



Steinberg acquires Sibelius London team 

Notation can definitely be important. It depends on how you like to work.

For me, it depends on the project. For some, I definitely like using notation, and in those cases I like to use Notion. The latest version just came out and is now a 64-bit app, which is nice when working with large sample libraries.

Anyway, yeah, for certain projects, I definitely think notation is important.

Scott

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Garrigus, it's nice to know someone else in here uses Notion. I just upgraded a few days ago to Notion 4. I have always complained about the staff view in Cakewalk products. Have you tried re-wire yet with Sonar and Notion? I plan on trying that out soon. My dream program would be Sonar with the staff view and notation capability of Notion. All that wrapped in one program would be heaven. Maybe someday they will incorporate more than one audio track in Notion or update the Cake staff view to look and act like Notion.. At any rate, I'm pleased to know someone else in the forum that uses notation.

I would definitely prefer to use notation for initially laying out chords and melodies, with a view to tweaking them later in the PRV. But from reading umpteen threads about the problems and limitations of the staff view, I've steered clear so far. 

Sidroe
Garrigus, it's nice to know someone else in here uses Notion. I just upgraded a few days ago to Notion 4. I have always complained about the staff view in Cakewalk products. Have you tried re-wire yet with Sonar and Notion? I plan on trying that out soon. My dream program would be Sonar with the staff view and notation capability of Notion. All that wrapped in one program would be heaven. Maybe someday they will incorporate more than one audio track in Notion or update the Cake staff view to look and act like Notion.. At any rate, I'm pleased to know someone else in the forum that uses notation. 

Hi Sidney,


Haven't tried ReWire yet. Just got Notion 4 yesterday, so haven't had time to install.  But I also have Notion 3 and have been using that for notation-based projects. For those projects, I compose in Notion and then export to SONAR for mixing, effects, etc.


That would definitely be cool if Notion incorporated some more audio features and video too, as long as it doesn't mess up any of the core features that make it great for composing with virtual instruments.


I really can't wait to try Notion 4 under Win 7 64-bit with my 24GB of RAM. 


Just too busy with the SONAR X2 Power! book at the moment, but I'll definitely be trying it soon.

Actually, I think there are quite a few people here in the forum that use notation for composing, but I'm not sure how many use Notion. But this topic of notation in SONAR comes up quite a bit.

Scott

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* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://garrigus.com/?PowerBooks
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://garrigus.com/?ProAudioTutor
* Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://digifreq.com/?DigiFreq
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shouldn't this be "interesting thread for those who think notation IS important"?.. :)

Wow I bet steinberg is going to come up with some amazing software in that collaboration, especially given their advances with the vst3 standard.

Notion 3 user here, but up to now, I've only used it for importing xml file generated from Sonar, to touch up before printing it.

The rewire thing.. Can one use Sonar to record midi, and rewire it to Notion for notation, making it interactive, instead of having to export/import xml file and having to redo certain setting all over again ? ..I'm guessing it's not possible, as I've heard rewire is only for audio right.. hoping it's possible.

Also.. Roland should have snapped up the ex-Sibelius team.

tomixornot


Notion 3 user here, but up to now, I've only used it for importing xml file generated from Sonar, to touch up before printing it.

The rewire thing.. Can one use Sonar to record midi, and rewire it to Notion for notation, making it interactive, instead of having to export/import xml file and having to redo certain setting all over again ? ..I'm guessing it's not possible, as I've heard rewire is only for audio right.. hoping it's possible.

Also.. Roland should have snapped up the ex-Sibelius team.

I don't know about Rewire only being for audio....I used to use it to link Pro Tools and Reaper so that I could host VSTi's on Reaper and do of the MIDI editing and mixing in Pro Tools. So I guess Rewire was sending MIDI from ProTools to Reaper, and then routing the audio output from Reaper back to Pro Tools. So I'm guessing what you're talking about is theoretically possible. 

Sidroe


Garrigus, it's nice to know someone else in here uses Notion. I just upgraded a few days ago to Notion 4. I have always complained about the staff view in Cakewalk products. Have you tried re-wire yet with Sonar and Notion? I plan on trying that out soon. My dream program would be Sonar with the staff view and notation capability of Notion. All that wrapped in one program would be heaven. Maybe someday they will incorporate more than one audio track in Notion or update the Cake staff view to look and act like Notion.. At any rate, I'm pleased to know someone else in the forum that uses notation.

Sidroe, I'm using Notion as well, but have yet to upgrade to version 4.