As a Sibelius user this is great news. 

I'm sure Steinberg will make a better fist of it than Avid. Seeing as Steinberg is owned by Yamaha and Yamaha is deeply involved in the world of Classical music.

It would be great if a fuller notation system was integrated into Sonar. Even the limited ability to view notation in Sonar was sufficient enough to be attractive to me - otherwise I'd still be using Acid alone. Not that piano roll isn't also useful, but I grew up reading music as a kid. I've only recently got around to dabbling in music again, haven't played in years, but I still comprehend your basic sheet of music and it helps tremendously when understanding a piece you've never seen before.

Here's hoping Cakewalk jumps on the bandwagon.

sharke

tomixornot


Notion 3 user here, but up to now, I've only used it for importing xml file generated from Sonar, to touch up before printing it.

The rewire thing.. Can one use Sonar to record midi, and rewire it to Notion for notation, making it interactive, instead of having to export/import xml file and having to redo certain setting all over again ? ..I'm guessing it's not possible, as I've heard rewire is only for audio right.. hoping it's possible.

Also.. Roland should have snapped up the ex-Sibelius team.

I don't know about Rewire only being for audio....I used to use it to link Pro Tools and Reaper so that I could host VSTi's on Reaper and do of the MIDI editing and mixing in Pro Tools. So I guess Rewire was sending MIDI from ProTools to Reaper, and then routing the audio output from Reaper back to Pro Tools. So I'm guessing what you're talking about is theoretically possible. 

Thanks. I will give it a test once I've upgraded to Notion 4. 


My current X1/X2 is 64 bit, while Notion 3 is 32 bit. Won't talk at all.

Reaper, I liked it a lot with both 32/64 bit rewire support. I use Reaper to rewire to some old Vocaloids (32 bits) with great result.

SuperG


It would be great if a fuller notation system was integrated into Sonar. Even the limited ability to view notation in Sonar was sufficient enough to be attractive to me - otherwise I'd still be using Acid alone. Not that piano roll isn't also useful, but I grew up reading music as a kid. I've only recently got around to dabbling in music again, haven't played in years, but I still comprehend your basic sheet of music and it helps tremendously when understanding a piece you've never seen before.

Here's hoping Cakewalk jumps on the bandwagon.

Viewing notation is currently possible with Sonar with the Staff View. 


It's only more advanced editing that is a bit lacking (can't handle triplets with rests, lack of certain formatting, etc..).

Notion 4 64 bit rewire does indeed work. You are however limited to using 44.1khz for the audio sample rate as they do not support anything else. I have submitted a feature request to support higher sample rates. Perhaps if others do as well it will come about.

I haven't checked in Notion 4 but in Notion 3 rewire support is for Sonar's transport to control play in Notion & to supply a stereo audio pair back to Sonar. You have to export midi data as midi or XML from Sonar & import it into Notion.

I haven't seen anything from Notion suggesting they revamped rewire support in version 4.

You can export the midi or just write the parts with the proper articulations in the score inside Notion and they will play back accurately.

@Tom Riggs - True, though mine above was a response to @sharke 's

I don't know about Rewire only being for audio....I used to use it to link Pro Tools and Reaper so that I could host VSTi's on Reaper and do of the MIDI editing and mixing in Pro Tools. So I guess Rewire was sending MIDI from ProTools to Reaper, and then routing the audio output from Reaper back to Pro Tools. So I'm guessing what you're talking about is theoretically possible. 

Sorry for the confusion :)

This looks great. Do any of you guys have experience using ewqlso PLAY with Notion? If so, is it worth it? How do you integrate PLAY with it exactly?   
What are the vsti presets for exactly in this case? For example, I saw there is ewqlso presets. I am thinking about Notion now, as it seems like it bridges a gap between DAW and notation. 

If you go over the the notion forums you will find some of the answers you seek. http://forum.notionmusic.com/