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2012/11/10 11:10:05
Taurean Mixing
Tom Riggs


If you go over the the notion forums you will find some of the answers you seek. http://forum.notionmusic.com/

Yep thanks  I've been perusing through it for the past hour or so 


Couldn't find the demo download however, could somebody post a link?    
2012/11/10 11:30:03
Sidroe
Great to see more Notion users popping up! Don't get the wrong idea from my previous post. I have always relied heavily on the staff view in Cakewalk products. I started out training in classical music so I have always been used to reading scores. We all are aware of the shortcomings in the staff view department. Let's not beat that dead horse. Thanks to Notion I have found a bridge between a notation program and what was available in Sonar. I upgraded a few days ago to Notion 4. I have both the 32 and 64 bit versions working. I am very pleased with what Notion has done this time around, other than the reverb and guitar sim that comes in Notion now. I still have Notion 3 on my machine so I just trade out the new reverb for the CSR reverb. I am really looking forward to finding the time to getting re-wired Notion and Sonar talking to each other. BTW, the Notion people seem to have re-worked the audio engine. The latency is so low on my machine it's scary.
2012/11/10 12:24:13
gibsongs
Avid is also making a big push into improving notation with Pro Tools. Check out this interview with Bobbi Lombardi (near the end he talks about the notation project he is involved with). http://www.pensadosplace....ct-management-at-avid/
2012/11/11 13:03:44
Taurean Mixing
Demo download link, anybody? 
2012/11/11 14:04:20
sharke
Sidroe


Great to see more Notion users popping up! Don't get the wrong idea from my previous post. I have always relied heavily on the staff view in Cakewalk products. I started out training in classical music so I have always been used to reading scores. We all are aware of the shortcomings in the staff view department. Let's not beat that dead horse. Thanks to Notion I have found a bridge between a notation program and what was available in Sonar. I upgraded a few days ago to Notion 4. I have both the 32 and 64 bit versions working. I am very pleased with what Notion has done this time around, other than the reverb and guitar sim that comes in Notion now. I still have Notion 3 on my machine so I just trade out the new reverb for the CSR reverb. I am really looking forward to finding the time to getting re-wired Notion and Sonar talking to each other. BTW, the Notion people seem to have re-worked the audio engine. The latency is so low on my machine it's scary.

I should think the Notion/Rewire thing is pretty straightforward to set up, in fact I notice Notion has a video tutorial for this on their YouTube channel. Seems like Notion is a pretty reasonable price so I may look into it, would love to start writing music "properly" and hearing it in Sonar!

EDIT: have just read Ducatibruce2's post above, looks like it's not what I hoped after all 
2012/11/11 20:02:11
Sidroe
Sharke,Notion is probably no where close to a Sibelius or Finale but for what it does for the price it is worth the investment in my opinion. I have been running the 64 bit version thru the grinder and it is holding up very,very well. I don't know if the price they have right now will be raised any because they say Now, for an introductory price on the web page. I already had Notion 3 from a Cakewalk special when X1 came out so the upgrade of $49 was a no brainer for me. I have used re-wire before with Reason so I know how to set it up, I just have not had the time to getting around to testing it with X2. Hopefully, this coming week will find time for it. With the capability to use your vst library in Notion you can pretty much use Notion in the place of Sonar for all your midi needs and just use Sonar for your audio tracks in sync. I've been doing that for a while with Notion 3.
2012/11/11 20:36:01
Tom Riggs
what sidroe says is correct but remember that notion 64 does not have a bridge to use 32 bit vsti's. You can get jbridge to do that if you need it.
2012/11/11 20:52:43
Fog
just because they bought the ex-staff , don't read loads into it...

remember the bitwig staff are some ex ableton staff
studio 1 has some ex steinberg staff

you need to wait a fair bit to find out what happens and they could make something that is solely locked to steinberg / yamaha (their owners) products. they could of course take on something to challenge Sibelius / notation 3 or whatever it is


2012/11/11 23:46:31
pbognar
Fog


just because they bought the ex-staff , don't read loads into it...

remember the bitwig staff are some ex ableton staff
studio 1 has some ex steinberg staff

you need to wait a fair bit to find out what happens and they could make something that is solely locked to steinberg / yamaha (their owners) products. they could of course take on something to challenge Sibelius / notation 3 or whatever it is
True, but this tells me is that Steinberg (Yamaha) and Pro Tools (Avid) are serious about notation.  It's also worth mentioning that the Cubase and Pro Tools DAW's have built-in notation editing which run circles around that of (Roland) Cakewalk's Sonar.
 
Funny, if Logic was still owned by Emagic, I'd bet they'd have been in the quest for the Sibelius resources too. 
2012/11/12 16:47:05
vintagevibe
pbognar

  
Funny, if Logic was still owned by Emagic, I'd bet they'd have been in the quest for the Sibelius resources too. 

If Logic was still owned by Emagic I might still be using it.
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