That was my point.. If they can be bothered to have the feature then why not for inputs and ouputs.. I have several boards with multiple ports, and so always need to scroll to check to see if the keyboard port is checked... with "move checked to top" this wouldnt be the case.. exactly like for outputs.

 
 
daveny5


"Move checked to top" works for output devices only. Its not needed for input devices because Sonar recognizes all inputs regardless of the order. There is a technique to it though. For example, if you have 3 outputs and you want to stack them in order, you would do this:


Original order:
3
2
1

Select 1 and click move to top.
Result:
1
3
2

Hold CTRL and select 1 and 2 and click move to top. 
If you don't select 1 again, then 2 will be put at the top. 
Result:
1
2
3

This hasn't changed since the original version of Cakewalk (pre-Sonar) so I've had a lot of practice with it.  They should probably make it drag and drop.

I'd like to see the ability to sort inputs as well. I really don't need my MCU & XT for playing MIDI tracks from.

And how about the selected output for audio tracks have a checkmark beside it in the selection list?? Same for sends.

From the begining. Why are the managers so stubborn about this?

Especially with the cryptic shortened names that are displayed on the buttons.

Inputs have checkmarks.

The output list dialog prolly uses the same code.

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And please remove "output to" from the info balloon. One more thng in the way to learn the really important stuff.
 

Interesting...  I personally find it more important to sort inputs than outputs.   So + 1 for the ability to dynamically sort both.
 
 
One question though - does anyone understand the subject line of this thread?

One question though - does anyone understand the subject line of this thread?

 
Surely nobody would have read another "Friendly Name" thread and Mike knows it! 
 
Brian

Got that right...  
 
I find it funny that no one mentioned it, almost as though it's expected.
 

Perhaps it is just my set up but I really don't understand what's wrong with the naming convention at the moment.

I think it could be improved by having a separate sub menu of mono & stereo inputs, but I can already name my inputs to whatever I want now, so I just don't get that part at all.  

Will someone please open the friging pod bay doors!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkyUMmNl4hk

FastBikerBoy


Perhaps it is just my set up but I really don't understand what's wrong with the naming convention at the moment.

I think it could be improved by having a separate sub menu of mono & stereo inputs, but I can already name my inputs to whatever I want now, so I just don't get that part at all.  

This is the part where I mention that the addition of the suffix, or the prefix... I forget which... and the addition of the L and R nomenclature stuff isn't very friendly and you have the chance to reply "oh yes, if I were to mention that fact then my previous statement would actually be accurate."

Then you usually point out that I said suffix when I should have said prefix, or visa versa... I forget which it is... and then we go back to me thinking you are willing to forget about or celebrate all the SONAR work arounds and gotchas while you go back to thinking what ever it is that you actually like to think about.



It seems pretty obvious that you can not actually name the friendly names what you actually want unless you actually want the extra clutter that is the result of the super imposed  conventions for labeling that SONAR forces upon your choice.


I believe the need for Structural Reform of the Electronic Musical Instruments is a direct result of people thinking that seeming clever with excuse and denial is an effective way to distract people from reality.

I have brought up the friendly name issue, once again, because it is a classic example of a simple usability issue that should have been rolled out with no gotchas, but instead came with a great big "gotcha". 

The circumstance makes Roland and Cakewalk look like it can't seem to make an easy and obvious decision about a very simple and easy to anticipate expectation.

If you are going to roll out a feature named "friendly names" the names ought to actually seem friendly. Simple.




If Cakewalk can figure that out... well, that's a feature I would pay for, again. 




best regards,

mike

I'd like to see the ability to sort inputs as well. I really don't need my MCU & XT for playing MIDI tracks from.

Can't you just uncheck them then?