John


This forum should try to offer help not sarcastic remarks.

I have seen the attacking of posters voicing their concerns increase over the last few days. That is not what this forum is all about.

If you have no help to offer. No information that may shed light on the issues being reported than please refrain from commenting. All this does is cause those that may need our help go elsewhere.  

yeah i agree... one of the bugs i posted a video about (and did get a confirmation from cake acknowledging it was a bug) resulted in 3 people claiming i was using sonar wrong and that was not supposed to be a feature, so i posted a video from x1 showing the same feature and how it actually did work in that version but not x2.  still got people telling me NOT.A.BUG. LOL. 


whatever.  i just try to be as helpful as possible and share my experience.  

I agree that much. Certainly the issues explained in the original post do not appear driver or hardware related (but I wouldn't rule it out), I certainly don't think there's imagination at play here, but then see my previous comments. Really it ain't what you say it's the way that you say it - that's what gets results.

CakeAlexS


If you want software to be reliable always wait for the service packs. End of. Don't blame the software makers - sorry. I've worked in QA departments with complex software (and Sonar is very complex) and although the marketeers don't want you to hear this, the consumers end up being the ultimate testers of the product, there's just too many combinations. Not even Microsoft with millions of $$$ and a huge testing lab can release bug free software.

I dunno, I've worked on many software and database projects and esp. when i was at PricewaterhouseCoopers, it wasn't unusual for our teams to have upwards of 50,000 test cases and QA checks.  It was manageable.  My feeling is what worked in X1 should still work in X2 and that isn't always the case.  I'm wondering, though, if this doesn't have something to do with Roland corp's stock price falling 300 yen in the last 4 months.

"My feeling is what worked in X1 should still work in X2 and that isn't always the case.  I'm wondering, though, if this doesn't have something to do with Roland corp's stock price falling 300 yen in the last 4 months. "


Please explain what you mean.

which part? x1 features not working in x2 or roland's stock price?

Yes-folks shouldn't get sarcastic remarks for posting issues. But when you post your issues-I mean the remark about his business and CWs. Was that needed? Nope-so who threw the 1st sarcastic line. Some of you guys never look at the way the bugs or issues are posted. Just post the issues, no need to hear about his biz or cws biz or your grandmas biz.
 
Dreading customers coming in in the morning. Like, whose fault is that? No one was threatened with bodily harm if they didn't upgrade. And if you make your living with this stuff-Then I am sorry but take a reality check on who upgraded-I have a home studio for me and if I was working on something just for my family to enjoy I wouldn't upgrade until it was done.
 
I don't see any heavy sarcastic remarks-One was a comment about the biz crap and the other was a response to Yes you should have waited.
 
So,..... What the heck is the big deal here?????? Wow. I guess you guys feel a need to scold simple, LOGICAL responses.
Just sayin................................................................
BTW- I do feel for the OP and hope he gets his studio working the way he needs it to be-

> swamptooth
I dunno, I've worked on many software and database projects and esp. when i was at PricewaterhouseCoopers, it wasn't unusual for our teams to have upwards of 50,000 test cases and QA checks.  It was manageable.  My feeling is what worked in X1 should still work in X2 and that isn't always the case.  I'm wondering, though, if this doesn't have something to do with Roland corp's stock price falling 300 yen in the last 4 months.

The engine will have changed. I'm sure Pricewaters standardised on their hardware and software, Cake doesn't have that advantage. Also database projects are far easier to test than realtime software that specifically interacts with hardware. I suspect Pricewaters testing budget is bigger than Cakes as well. I bet you Pricewaters had bugs even after this testing on first releases (like all software, even for planes). That mean a lot more time is required testing, often the generic testing may get left aside during this process. Should/shouldn't have.... That's life and that's what service service packs are for.

Thank you all for your contributions to my comments/opinion this morning before I stated work. I must say I thought people would think I should have my coffee hit first so I’m not a grumpy old fart before posting ha ha ha 

Firstly I did say on conclusion of first post… 
“Just my two cents... Sigh! I feel a little better getting that of my chest” 
and in next post that… 
“I’m a little mad at myself for throwing caution to the wind, so I do accept some responsibly for my predicament.”

Alex you make some great points in your posts, but so does swamptooth! As a hobby programmer only, I fine it a bit rich to say “engine changes” means the colour settings in 8.5.3 which as I said earlier worked exceedingly well, got all stuffed up in X1, X1a, X1b, X1c, X1d and now X2 while sonarmods “aka panup” seems to have no problems with them. Also engine changes are not responsible for the lack of a quick fix since 8.5.3 for the PX-64 Percussion Strip not retaining presets.

>So,..... What the heck is the big deal here?????? 
Yes stratman70 I agree. Although in self-defence I did not deliberately intend to pass a sarcastic line, but your point is taken.
(Note to myself… always drink full cup of extra strength coffee before posting on-line, especially if it’s a Monday morning.)

I must add here that I still maintain the essence my original post

"IMHO the bakers have once again released an under cooked cake"

To one and all… have a wonderful creative day! 

CakeAlexS


I agree that much. Certainly the issues explained in the original post do not appear driver or hardware related (but I wouldn't rule it out), I certainly don't think there's imagination at play here, but then see my previous comments. Really it ain't what you say it's the way that you say it - that's what gets results.

+1
 
If criticism of posts in this thread is going to be handed out by some members then the OP should be taking his share of the criticism.. The post is hyperbolic at best and baiting at worst...
 
 

Good one Glenn.