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2012/11/02 10:18:29
Truckermusic
Glyn Barnes


There is a 64 bit version of Pentagon, not sure about PsynII

Really?
I was not able to find one.....but that does not mean a whole lot.......if you have a link that you could provide that would be cool.....cause I would much prefer to run 64 bit than a bridged version.......
 
But I did get mine to work by using jBridge.
 
Thanks
 
Clifford
2012/11/02 10:55:36
Glyn Barnes
Truckermusic


Glyn Barnes


There is a 64 bit version of Pentagon, not sure about PsynII

Really?
I was not able to find one.....but that does not mean a whole lot.......
The 64 bit Pentagon has been around for a while. I think it just installs when you Install X2. But I don't have a clean install of X2 so it may have come from an earlier version of Sonar. (8.5)
2012/11/02 12:51:12
mwall
Thanks for the tips, but I don't think these plugins and synths even installed, as they are not showing up in my plugins list. So I guess I'll need to try to do a custom install as administrator. How exactly would that work? I'm not at home now, so I can't experiment. Do I just right click on Part 1 of the installation downloads and select run as administrator?

Thanks.

Mark
2012/11/02 13:06:05
Beepster
Yeah... when you start the install process there will be an option for Custom Install. I forget but you might have to click through a couple install wizard screens to get to it.

And yes... even though I am always logged on as administrator on my system I've still had to Run As Administrator for a few programs to install correctly. I just do that by default now to avoid the issue when it arises. Saves time. Be aware though X2 is not yet fully patched for Win 8 so you may encounter problems in that regard. Cheers.
2012/11/08 20:33:52
mwall
UPDATE: PARTIALLY SOLVED.
Hate to double post this, but for those searching for answers with similar problems, it might help them, plus, I could use some suggestions for getting this to fully work.

I never got a response from Cakewalk on how to fix this, but after some more research I decided to completely uninstall X2 (using the method at the bottom of this post) and reinstall as administrator, instead of reinstalling as administrator over the top of the previous install.

This time Pentagon and PSYN II installed without the "Unable to register the DLL/OCX" error; however, even after opening X2 as administrator, the plugins don't work. My MIDI track that feeds the synth is lighting up on the meter, but nothing comes out of the synths.

Other synths (Z3TA) are working fine.

Any suggestions?


For those experiencing the same install problem, here are the instructions I found for a clean install of Sonar:


 
a) Completely un-install SONAR from your computer. This is normally 
done from Start | Programs | Cakewalk. This will not remove any of 
your files or audio data. 

b) To make sure nothing else is running while reinstalling SONAR in 
step 'e', choose Start | Run and type MSCONFIG. Click OK, choose 
Selective Startup, then uncheck the Load Startup Group Items box. 
Click OK, and restart Windows. You can always recheck that box at a 
later time. In Win 2000/XP, click Ctrl+Alt+Del and manually End Task 
on the items you don't need running. Restart your computer. 

c) Click the Windows Start button and select Run. At the prompt type 
REGEDIT and click OK. 
Backup your Registry before making edits - you do this by clicking the 
Registry menu, Export Registry File. 
Now delete the following Registry keys 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software 

Please note that this will remove any effects presets and key bindings 
you may have made in Cakewalk. You can back up those registry keys 
separately if you like. 

d) Delete the files AUD.INI and TTSSEQ.INI from the SONAR program 
folder. (For this step, I had to SEARCH my C drive for these files. You might have to set your computer to view hidden files ... not sure.)

e) Restart your computer, then reinstall SONAR. 



2012/11/08 22:30:52
mwall
Another UPDATE:
Thinking it might be the whole 64-bit Sonar environment causing the problem, I installed the 32-bit X2, and I still get no sound from these Pentagon I, PSYN II, TTS, etc.

Any ideas? Do I just have to go back to a 32-bit Windows environment to get my song back that I was in the middle of producing?

Thanks.

Mark
2012/11/08 22:53:06
daveny5

I am considered an administrator when I log in. So that shouldn't be it.



WRONG! You still have to right click and select Run as Administrator.  Pentagon and Psyn both work in X2 with Windows 7 or 8 64-bit. 


Its a weird-ass Windows quirk that we all went through a year or so ago. 
2012/11/09 17:26:42
mwall
Daveny5, I am doing as you say to do, and they still produce no sound. I can load them up in my synth rack, double click on them and open them up, and I can get midi input showing up in the meters, but no output on any DXi synths. I tried Z3TA, and it works fine. I called tech support just now, and they are befuddled. I'm doomed.

Mark
2012/11/09 20:43:12
daveny5
I don't think you can use the DXi version of Pentagon in 64-bit Windows. Use the VST version. I believe you can use the DXi version of PSYN II though. I tried both of mine under Windows 8 just now and they both work. Make sure you have a MIDI track with the output set to the softsynth you want to use, select the MIDI track, and make sure Input Echo is on. 

You can have both 32-bit and 64-bit Sonar installed at the same time so you don't need to go back. 
2012/11/09 22:35:11
swamptooth
weird... pent I only shows up as a dxi in my plugin manager. How do i install as a vst??
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