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2012/11/09 00:23:58
konradh
OK, have tried a number of things so far: acoustic guitar, vocals, bass, and master buss.  I have been happy with all so far.  There are many effects and presets, including simple things like reverbs and basic amp sims, so I imagine I will be experimenting for a while.  You get quite a bit for the ~$150 USD it costs.
2012/11/09 05:31:40
vinny199
The question I'm asking myself about EZmix:

Can it "really do a full mix" (of course volumes and pannings need to be dealt with.

But how can it really get the EQ etc spot on without "hearing" the source material as an engineer does?

I'm saying that because I am in the process of mixing an album now.

I am not good enough to mix stuff on my own and I export all my stems to load into protools at my local studio and I work with the engineer there to do the mix.

At best, we do 1 song a day. Sometimes it takes longer. and it does cost me quite a few quid too..

Most my songs have around 35 to 40 tracks.

It would just be "magic" if I could get the same results as I am getting mixing with an engineer.

Can it really do the job that well?

I'd be curious to hear more (and hearing mixed songs too)..


2012/11/09 07:46:29
tagruvto
You can read my brief review of EZMIX2 in Bass Musician Magazine
 

I would suggest that you download the demo and try it out for yourself!
2012/11/09 10:38:00
bapu
vinny199


The question I'm asking myself about EZmix:

Can it "really do a full mix" (of course volumes and pannings need to be dealt with.

But how can it really get the EQ etc spot on without "hearing" the source material as an engineer does?

I'm saying that because I am in the process of mixing an album now.

I am not good enough to mix stuff on my own and I export all my stems to load into protools at my local studio and I work with the engineer there to do the mix.

At best, we do 1 song a day. Sometimes it takes longer. and it does cost me quite a few quid too..

Most my songs have around 35 to 40 tracks.

It would just be "magic" if I could get the same results as I am getting mixing with an engineer.

Can it really do the job that well?

I'd be curious to hear more (and hearing mixed songs too)..

JMO, but EZMix is full of presets, not magic. You still have to "somewhat" know what you want out of a track or bus (i.e. why use a distortion preset on an acoustic guitar in a bluegrass tune?). After that you have parameters that you probably will tweak.


Bottom line is, it can be easier to get closer to what you want with EZMix on a track or bus level but you still have to deal with producing your song/album and there is no "real" magic bullet for that.
2012/11/09 10:56:21
vinny199
Hey Bapu,


yes, sure I know that. And I do all the production and choose my effects as I need. I have no problem with that.


It is the very final 10% of mixing I struggle with: largelly EQing. I'm good with compressions etc. 


I was just wondering how a "mixing software" with preset could EQ in an optimum way a track in relation to another.


for instance, it it doesn;t know what kind of Kick I use, how can it EQ the bass correctly? and the kick for that matter? It just seems impossible a software could do that. However, as suggested before I'll downlod the demo and check it out.






JMO, but EZMix is full of presets, not magic. You still have to "somewhat" know what you want out of a track or bus (i.e. why use a distortion preset on an acoustic guitar in a bluegrass tune?). After that you have parameters that you probably will tweak. Bottom line is, it can be easier to get closer to what you want with EZMix on a track or bus level but you still have to deal with producing your song/album and there is no "real" magic bullet for that.
bapu


vinny199


The question I'm asking myself about EZmix:

Can it "really do a full mix" (of course volumes and pannings need to be dealt with.

But how can it really get the EQ etc spot on without "hearing" the source material as an engineer does?

I'm saying that because I am in the process of mixing an album now.

I am not good enough to mix stuff on my own and I export all my stems to load into protools at my local studio and I work with the engineer there to do the mix.

At best, we do 1 song a day. Sometimes it takes longer. and it does cost me quite a few quid too..

Most my songs have around 35 to 40 tracks.

It would just be "magic" if I could get the same results as I am getting mixing with an engineer.

Can it really do the job that well?

I'd be curious to hear more (and hearing mixed songs too)..

JMO, but EZMix is full of presets, not magic. You still have to "somewhat" know what you want out of a track or bus (i.e. why use a distortion preset on an acoustic guitar in a bluegrass tune?). After that you have parameters that you probably will tweak.


Bottom line is, it can be easier to get closer to what you want with EZMix on a track or bus level but you still have to deal with producing your song/album and there is no "real" magic bullet for that.



2012/11/09 11:28:19
bapu
vinny199


Hey Bapu,


for instance, it it doesn;t know what kind of Kick I use, how can it EQ the bass correctly? and the kick for that matter? It just seems impossible a software could do that. However, as suggested before I'll downlod the demo and check it out.



Exactly why I said they are "presets" that will (most likely) need to be tweaked.


Eaxmple: you have a kick but it's not cutting through the mix. Assuming it's compressed properly you probably need EQ. Now EZMix has a multitude of Kick presets that not only will EQ but maybe even compress. So you might call up Firm Kick which has two parameters: EQ and Sustain. Will it solve your problem automagically? No. But it might get you a lot closer than if you inserted a Sonitus EQ and and a Transient Designer (unless you already "know" these tools, which you claim you don't as yet).


The upside is ypu get there quicker. The downside is you may not learn the proper use of an actual EQ and Transient Designer plugs as the EZMix preset has somewhat shielded you from that.


It's really a production choice (and potential time save) you have to make.


Again, no magic here just an easier/quicker route to get what you may be looking for.
2012/11/09 11:36:38
vinny199
Bapu,

thanks,

out of interest, Have you mixed a track of yours using mostly ezmix that I can listen to?

(I'm going to download the demo, make my own opinion about it. just curious as to what others achieve with it..)
2012/11/09 11:42:13
bapu
vinny199


Bapu,

thanks,

out of interest, Have you mixed a track of yours using mostly ezmix that I can listen to?

(I'm going to download the demo, make my own opinion about it. just curious as to what others achieve with it..)

Nope, I do not "mostly" use EZMix. I use it sparingly. My go to is the Bass Chorus. I have used cymbal, HH and OH processing for live/real drums that I get from Dave (quantumeffect) on collabs.


Mots collabs I do come with already pretty god EQ'd guitars and keys, and of course I do my bass to compliment what I get. I've never used EZMix on vocals (yet).
2012/11/09 17:18:47
DPTrainor
Nice Review!
2012/11/09 23:38:10
chrisharbin
I just sold mine because I have too much stuff. The product is pretty good but the packs cost too much and you don't really know what you are going to get. Certainly nothing wrong with it.
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