• SONAR
  • What does 64-bit provide, and is it worth the hassle? (p.2)
2012/11/03 06:03:04
scook
Bob, they run fine in X2 on Win7. They are part of the standard SONAR 64bit installation.
2012/11/03 06:08:40
robert_e_bone
[<font]Never mind - sorry.

Bob Bone 

2012/11/03 06:11:19
scook
No need for dxshell for the stuff installed with 64bit SONAR. The OP relates to a problem that some have during installation. There are numerous threads on the forum and google (other software has this issue too) that discuss the specific error message.
2012/11/03 06:11:29
robert_e_bone
Thanks - I was just posting some stuff I found through a quick search - I have no knowledge of this issue or any possible solutions - just posted that so the OP could review and maybe figure out something. 

I edited out the prior postings I put forth.   

I had debated even posting that stuff, and I am thinking that if I had more of my brain working when I woke up this morning, I would have probably not even gotten involved.

More coffee 
Bob Bone

2012/11/03 06:13:22
Bristol_Jonesey
Mark has a Q6600/4GB RAM, how much does he benefit from 64 bit ? besides having to replace plugins with something better ? he can as well leave his DAW how it is and go on with making music. 



I was here this time last year but some of my more complex projects simply caused me to run into workflow problems which I didn't really need.  Having to freeze synths was happening regularly, and as for doing complex Orchestral mockups - forget it!


I'm doing an orchestral piece right now and have a fully loaded template of EWQLSO Platinum (which takes 8 minutes! to load all it's samples) but once up & running, the machine & Sonar do not complain.


It's using about 9Gb of the available RAM
2012/11/03 06:18:06
scook
Keeping the dxshell stuff alive ain't bad. It works with some of the Dx stuff available through the custom install process. The basic 64bit install process installs a few Dx Synths and effects. The installer is failing and that is the issue. BTW, good morning.
2012/11/03 06:28:25
mattplaysguitar
To be fair, I said I have no problems, but that's not true. Yes, some plugs don't work well. But plenty of alternatives are popping up and fortunately the ones I have had probs with were free.

All my projects nowdays tend to be over 4GB and I'd hate to be freezing all the time. It's very nice to know there is plenty of space left available. Hate to be running constantly on the edge.

If the OP isn't going to up his RAM then no need to go 64 bit unless he wants a plug that's only in 64 or he wants to upgrade the room in the future!
2012/11/03 06:37:54
robert_e_bone
You can buy a nice quad-core AMD Phenom II 965 black edition CPU, and get a free motherboard with it, and 16 GB or memory for a total cost of less than $200 these days.

64-bit processing with lots of memory if cheap and easy to get these days, and WELL worth it.  Windows 7 x64 can address 192 GB of memory.  My computer has 32 GB of memory on it and I NEVER have to worry about any memory issues no matter how many synths and tracks I have in a project.

Bob Bone
2012/11/03 06:51:53
vinny199
  Frank,

it is quite simple really.

what you are experincing is what everyone else is more or less experiencing.

Despite 64bit having been around for a few years now, we are still in a transition period if you like.

However, we are getting closer and closer to the cut off point where 64 bit is 100% the norm and software developpers will not bother with dedicated 32 bit versions.

So, the ONLY logical move, if you want to think a little bit more "long term" than the next few month, is to go 64 bit.

Most 32bit plugin still work well in 64 bit enviroment (especially with Jbridge installed), and yes, a few of them worn't work so well, or not at all.

The major software developpers are updating their flagship plugins to be 64bit and soon enough this will just be the norm.

So, if you are reverting to 32 bit now, what you are in effect cutting yourself from is all the new plugins that will be 64bit only.

Therefore, there is no need to be angry about "the hype of 64 bit" etc.

It is just an evolution in computing technology like there's been many before and there will be many to come.

Make sure you check all your plugins are up to latest version etc.

All the best.

2012/11/03 08:06:49
Glyn Barnes
Frank Haas


I have a couple of thousand dollar worth 32bit plugins(UAD).. I can't live without them!
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A good enough reason to stay on 32 bit.
 
I am fortunate that most of my plugins have been acquired in the last three years and taking a long temrm view 64 bit compatibility as always been a high priority when making a selection.
 
I now only have two 32 bit plug ins that I use regularly and I know 64 bit versions are in beta test.
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