is it possible to set up Sonar w/ some kind of offset so that it starts recording on measure 0 or measure -1 ?

the hard input on measure one is a drag, and starting recording on measure 2 is a drag too.

help?

thanks.

bunnyfluffer


is it possible to set up Sonar w/ some kind of offset so that it starts recording on measure 0 or measure -1 ?

the hard input on measure one is a drag, and starting recording on measure 2 is a drag too.

help?

thanks.

No, there isn't a way to do that, and there's no need for that.  Why is it a "drag" to start on either measure 1 or 2?  You do realize that you can set the metronome to give you whatever kind of count in you want, right?  I usually set it to a 2 beat count in - I'm good to go after that.

rbowser

because if you are used to traditional recording/notation etc & do a lot of bar calculating, it is a pain in the ass to have to keep remembering you ar a bar or two off the REAL count.

but there again I only know of one daw that lets you do what he wants and it isnt Sonar.

Ivan, I use markers, so I don't need to refer to measure numbers, I can see that the Chorus starts here, or Verse 2 starts here the the Coda begins here. I've used chord names in the past too: Em7 D9 that kind of thing to keep track of where I am. Generally, all of my tunes begin with a two measure count in (usually Sticks in EZD) then we're off and running. Your kilometerage may vary, of course.

I don't know why CW hasn't incorporated this feature. People have been asking about it for years.

Adobe Audition has had this feature for as long as I can remember (perhaps even back to the CEP days before Syntrillium sold out to Adobe but I don't remember back that far)...

Yes, BluesMeister - that's what I was suggesting earlier.  Markers when used extensively, and there's no reason not to do so, circumvent what can seem like a hassle with measure numbers.

I repeat - you can set the metronome to anything you want.  If you insist on pedantically keeping your eyes glued to what measure number you are on, you can have Sonar's time line and the actual measure count match up if you just understand how to count in to your project.

rbowser

rbowser


Yes, BluesMeister - that's what I was suggesting earlier.  Markers when used extensively, and there's no reason not to do so, circumvent what can seem like a hassle with measure numbers.

I repeat - you can set the metronome to anything you want.  If you insist on pedantically keeping your eyes glued to what measure number you are on, you can have Sonar's time line and the actual measure count match up if you just understand how to count in to your project.

rbowser

 
Randy,
 
What the OP is trying to achieve is to have a measure "0" or a measure "-1" to accomodate and pickup notes (say a two beat drum fill) leading into the downbeat of the first full measure (measure "1")...

Hi Randy-

If you insist on pedantically keeping your eyes glued to what measure number you are on, you can have Sonar's time line and the actual measure count match up if you just understand how to count in to your project.

My goodness!

IMO, there's nothing "pedantic" about wanting the measure number to match where you actually are. "Logical", "practical", yes -- and certainly reasonable. It's been requested for years, and like lots of FRs, it lies dormant for long periods and then gets resurrected. Can I live without it? Of course; I've been limping along somehow with the way it is for years, but I'm still all for it!

-Susan

To Wit:

Here's a thread started not long ago about the same subject...

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2004007

I may be over simplifying things but it wouldn't even be hard for CW to implement. All they'd have to do is give you (the user) the ability to change the ruler start number from 0 to -1 or whatever you liked, make sure all other references to measure/time/position etc takes its reference from that starting point. Problem solved, or am I being over simplistic?