I beg to differ Karyn but the diamonds displayed in the PRV 'regular' view note pane (not drum map 'stood up' triangles) are definitely present for hardware drum synths.

I thought they were for Soft synth drums as well but I don't know that for fact so I'll have to let Yorolpal argue that case.

I don't use soft synth drums outside of drum maps often enough to know, but they are definitely there for hardware. The drum map triangles look different and are only visible in the drum map pane.

I'll get a screenshot together to show what I mean.

I'm startin to remember that Karyn is probably right.  My old Normal template had EZDrummer (track folder) already loaded and mapped and I recently switched to Superior instead.  Which would lead one to see why I now have notes instead of diamonds.  However, I've done two previous projects with the new Superior drummer template which DID show diamonds before this latest project that's reverted back to notes.  Personnally I think it's Colonel Mustard in the Library with the candlestick.

yorolpal


I'm startin to remember that Karyn is probably right.  My old Normal template had EZDrummer (track folder) already loaded and mapped and I recently switched to Superior instead.  Which would lead one to see why I now have notes instead of diamonds.  However, I've done two previous projects with the new Superior drummer template which DID show diamonds before this latest project that's reverted back to notes.  Personnally I think it's Colonel Mustard in the Library with the candlestick.

Could well be regarding Session Drummer, I don't use it as a direct synth much, if ever, but I've done a bit of digging and it seems to be related to channel assignment on soft synths

TTS-1 for example will show diamonds but only on channel 10 with a drum patch loaded. My hardware synths show them on any channel but they are assigned via instrument files which is probably relevant. Whether Session Drummer has ever worked or not I have no idea but others do.

Anyway as promised screenshots...both from the same track, the first assigned to a drum map the next assigned straight to the synth.

FastBikerBoy


I beg to differ Karyn but the diamonds displayed in the PRV 'regular' view note pane (not drum map 'stood up' triangles) are definitely present for hardware drum synths.

For a hardware drum synth, the midi data is simply being output through a hardware midi port rather than an internal virtual midi port.  Sonah doesn't know or care what is attached or where the midi data is going, it just sends it.


This is where the drum map comes in.  Not only does it define the instrument/note names and the midi note that is output for any played midi note in the track, but each instrument/note can also go to a defined midi output. So you could have the whole drum kit being played by SessionDrummer except the snare, played by BFD, and the kick played by an external hardware drum machine.

The instrument definitions are simply preloaded maps with all the correct settings for the particular instrument you selected.

Understood, but TTS-1 will display diamonds as well when a track is routed directly, though it does need to be on channel 10 for that to happen.

Try it. Insert TTS-1, assign a track directly to it on channel 10 with a drum kit loaded then open the PRV and draw notes. You'll see diamonds instead of regular notes.

I can't swear to it but I thought Session Drummer used to as well. Even if it doesn't it seems a bit illogical to have a GM soft synth displaying the drum diamonds but a drum synth doesn't. That must be a bug surely?