Okay - we have the official word from the developer; put the CE plugs on last.

Cakewalk: please note this and change your manual.

pdarg


Okay - we have the official word from the developer; put the CE plugs on last.

Cakewalk: please note this and change your manual.

As I've said for some time, Brandon and Seth used it last in the Webinar, and I was told by someone on here that they didn't know what they were talking about..
 
I pointed out that all the ProChannel presets had it on last - ditto..
 
When the Overloud email came to light, I've had comments where people misunderstood it, and took it to mean it didn't matter where you put it, or Overload were just covering themselves.
 
I'm not commenting on how good or bad it is, but just looking for how to us it best.
 
I've found it is best first on tracks.  On Master bus, I use it before CL.
 
There are lots of things that I'm not sure of, such as why you need to drive it so much to make a difference when, as Danny pointed out in another thread, you can hear the difference on a single track of a large format desk in the real world.
 
Ho hum, off to bed now..

That was one reply from one developer. I wonder if you had all of Overloud in one room if they would agree with the statements. I agree what sounds best rules,but I was also on a quest to finding out "how you are supposed to use it". I take classes in Modren Arnis and there also I learn how to do things "by the book" before I put my own spin on things. I was counting on Overloud to inform me of proper technique. JB if you are referring to me I never said they didn't know what they were talking about I said they may not have researched it in full.I still stand by that. I declare they would smoke me at this program and I bow to that.

Bristol_Jonesey


The only way I get a noticeable difference is by really cranking up the gain/drive - and that (for me) sort of defeats the whole purpose.

That's pretty much where I am but I've been led to believe that the effect is cumulative so listening back to single tracks isn't going to reveal much but an instance on all tracks and busses makes a bigger difference to the resulting mix.

Hey Craig,
     Just wondering if you would give a little detail on the guitar solo track (i.e. what guitar, what gear, which amp, mic or direct, which fx).  I dug the overall tune but I especially enjoyed that pretty nifty guitar solo.

Best,
Guitardood

xxxsoundxxx


That was one reply from one developer. I wonder if you had all of Overloud in one room if they would agree with the statements. I agree what sounds best rules,but I was also on a quest to finding out "how you are supposed to use it". I take classes in Modren Arnis and there also I learn how to do things "by the book" before I put my own spin on things. I was counting on Overloud to inform me of proper technique. JB if you are referring to me I never said they didn't know what they were talking about I said they may not have researched it in full.I still stand by that. I declare they would smoke me at this program and I bow to that.

I believe you said "I'll bet Seth and Brandon never gave it a second of thought & just used whatever it pulled up.(trusted it was automatically correctly placed) I have experienced "product engineers" that knew less about their product than I figured out in 15 min. so I don't take things for granted." 

Its one thing to question the wisdom of placing an FX in a particular spot but its quite another to question two of the most helpful and competent members of the CW team. 

Further from my viewing they knew exactly what they were doing.

John


Its one thing to question the wisdom of placing an FX in a particular spot but its quite another to question two of the most helpful and competent members of the CW team. 

Further from my viewing they knew exactly what they were doing.

+1

I should add I also have as much regard for Mr. Anderton as  I do Brandon and Seth.  I have read Mr. Anderton for years and when he speaks I listen. He is also one the most helpful members on this forum. His competence is not in question either. 

What we have is two conflicting ways to apply the CE.  I think it is best to do our own testing and decide from our own results. We have the option to place it in any position in a chain. So go at it. 

 

Yes I did say: "I'll bet Seth and Brandon never gave it a second of thought & just used whatever it pulled up.(trusted it was automatically correctly placed) I have experienced "product engineers" that knew less about their product than I figured out in 15 min. so I don't take things for granted." Are you saying they researched it more thoroughly than anyone could before implementing the CE? Did they contact/have conversations with the developers? Research console emulation programs? If so why does the company they represent give opposite information? I'm not questioning their wisdom,I'm saying they are not perfect and may not have researched everything they do 100%. Also I can give many instances when product engineers don't know their product as well as some consumers. Recent one for instance, After I bought the Andy johns Drum kit for SD3 I contacted platinum samples. Their "Product Engineer" said they don't make anything for session drummer. He stood by that untill I sent him their web page advertising it.